Hi folks. A little bit of everything in this post as I want to tie up a few loose ends and ramble a bit. The basic gist of this post will pertain to SEO - more specifically I want to show you exactly what it is I do in order to take some of the mystery out of SEO.
I want to start off by referring you to a comment left on a post I made in December.
The post was How I Find a Money Making Niche Dec 5, 2008
The comment was by Jez and you can read it below.
Hi Griz,
Problem I have with this post is that 95% of the backlinks to this sites are from blogs / social sites links.... many are from bloggers you know / are friends with.
What I would like to see is a post on link building for a "non bloggy" topic would be very useful... for example... say you had a niche site about "reactolite spectacles"... how would you approach link building on a site like that?
Jez
I have had a number of emails similar in nature. Since this keeps cropping up I think it needs to be discussed.
Yes - it's true. I get a lot of links simply because I am ranked highly in the serp's. I have lots of friends - they do link to me. What Jez and others don't realize is that I didn't develop all my friends until I was found on the search engines. I didn't (and still don't) use social networks to make friends. I had to get my site ranked well in the first place and I didn't have any help back then. The fact that this blog benefits from friends helping me now doesn't mean that this was always the case. If you think I don't really know how to build links and rank well without the help of my friends you are sorely mistaken and doing yourself a dis-service if you don't heed my advice.
Jez you wondered if I could rank well for a non-bloggy niche like "reactolite spectacles".
Here you go... Reactolite Spectacles
And you can find it ranked number 1 with double indexing in Google.
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As for my link building approach - it only needed a handful of links. None of the links are from friends.
I'm not a one trick pony like John Chow. This blog is successful and makes a lot of money for me but it is not all I do. I created 20 new sites in December just like the reactolite blog - 16 of which are now ranked number 1 for their main keyword. Only 1 is showing any promise as far as having decent traffic. The rest will probably end up on the farm - just like the Blinkweb by Brad Callen blog. This doesn't mean I wasted my time - the farm is quite useful. One of the 4 links I needed to rank the Reactolite site came from the Blinkweb blog.
This is how I find niches - I simply throw up enough sites, get them ranked and see which ones get traffic. Those that don't become useful later on for linking to yet more sites. Over and over. Throw enough crap against the wall and sooner or later something is going to stick.
Folks you don't have to go after the big niches all the time. Learn to get non competitive sites on top of the serp's. If they pan out great - if they don't then use them for linking. Get a stable of a hundred of these simple blogs and you will find that you can chase down the more competitive niches.
Btw - as you can see it doesn't take long (a month) to get a number 1 ranked site and it doesn't take a lot of links if the niche (keyword) has no competition. In fact I have shown you how to rank number 1 in a day when targeting short term hot topics like Asia'h Epperson. Maybe some of you need to put away the "insurance" blog for a bit and hone your skills ranking for "ants scratching their asses".
Simplify things and find out what it takes to rank on top of the serp's for easy niches. Build your confidence and your network at the same time. Baby steps. I guarantee that in a year from now you will be able to get that "insurance" blog on page 1.
Speaking of "a year from now". If you are going to make real money online then get realistic. I started this blog in Dec 2006. I picked a very competitive niche. I didn't expect to earn a dime until I cracked the first page in G. I didn't think I would get there any time soon. I was patient and took my time knowing that a year or two down the road it would be worth it. It's been two years since I started this blog and yup - it was worth waiting for...
For your inspiration. My January income for this free ugly blogger blog...
Adsense income = $3999.36
Project Payday Commissions = $1922.80
Assorted Affiliate Commissions Paypal = $427.39
Assorted Affiliate Commissions Clickbank = $365.91
Advertising Revenue = $225.00
January Total Revenue = $6940.46
Expenses = $0.00
Net Income = $6940.46 usd
Yes - 7k using a blogger blog. Would you stick it out for a year or two for that kind of income?
Total January income for all sites/all networks = $37,213.76 (primarily Adsense and Leads)
Total Expenses all networks = $1029.00
The bulk of my income comes from Blogger sites and all of it is earned by using SEO to rank well in the serp's. The A-list and their readers have never heard of me but I have 37,000 reasons why I don't really care. My system makes money and all it takes is - yup - backlinks. I will beat that horse until everyone of you learn that backlinks and Google are all you need to make money online.
And where do you get those backlinks? Link networks, article marketing, your own farm, friends, social sites (I don't but you can) and our own free resource that keeps growing every week - the niche support page on my Make Money Online with Griz blog.
SEO Software
My last post touched off a discussion regarding SEO Elite. (see the comments - set aside an hour to get through them all. lol) Paul mentioned that he preferred Aaron Wall's Free SEO Toolbar over SEO Elite. (I am not including links as this is not a sales pitch) I mentioned that if there were free tools that could provide the same data as SEO Elite then I would recommend people use them instead. I have yet to check out the SEO Toolbar but Paul assures me it does the same thing as SEO Elite and Fiar was kind enough to send me a sample of the SEO Toolbar rank checker this morning. (Thanks Fiar) I use SEO Elite for a number of things but it is the rank checker that is central to my success online. From what Fiar showed me it appears that SEO Toolbar does provide a useful rank checker and therefor I will suggest you all take advantage of the toolbar sight unseen on my part.
I will continue using SEO Elite as it is paid for and I am accustomed to using it. I bought SEO Elite ages ago when there was nothing comparable. Since then a multitude of free SEO software tools have made their way onto the scene and from the sounds of things SEO Elite has become redundant. If you can find free tools that produce the info you need then there is no need to buy any program just because it has a few bells and whistles that the free tools don't. (I'm leaving SEO Elite in the sidebar just because it makes me a few bucks a month off of search visitors who don't read my posts - anyone who doesn't read my blog is fair game in my books.) If you are a reader of mine - ask me in the comments before you buy anything you see on this site - I'll tell you whether I really endorse it.
The Rank Checker
My comments in the last post brought a flood of emails from readers wanting to know what the big deal was regarding the rank checker. The big deal is that it's what I use to mount a backlink campaign. It tells me where my keywords rank, how fast they rise in the serp's, which keywords need more backlinks and when to add them, how my competition is doing, what keywords they are competing for and which ones they aren't and a whole host of other things relevant to ranking well in the serp's. In short the rank checker is my NASA control center for my linking.
The screenshot below is just a section of the hundreds of keywords and sites I have loaded into SEO Elite's Rank Checker.
You will see instantly how well a site ranks for the keywords and what direction it is moving in (higher or lower in the serp's). It allows me to see if the competition really does know SEO. Below you will see Gary Conn's name. A few months ago he didn't rank worth crap in the serp's (meaning he was all BS before). He has been reading Vic's site and mine (not that he will admit it but I see him lurking) and now he is ranking for the MMO keywords. He is competition. Problogger on the other hand doesn't appear to have a clue about SEO and is really just a social blogger (a really good one) and isn't competition. Jonathan Ledger has a 3 way link program that he sells. Does it work? Nope. How do I know? I've tracked all his keywords and he doesn't rank for anything. His 3 way links program can't be very good if the owner of the program isn't ranked for squat. The rank checker is a great tool for checking out just how well different affiliate products work. If someone claims they are an expert at something and don't rank for their area of expertise they are full of crap. In short I use this tool for spying, for planning my strategies and then for implementing my links. It gives me the feedback I need to dominate the serp's. If you don't think it's important then go back and review my income again. Dominating the serp's IS my income.
Most of you know by now that I don't post often. There are many reasons for this. One is that I make more money not posting - notice the Adsense revenue dropped off over the last two weeks of January? Go through my posts in January and see when I posted. I explained why in one of those January posts. Another reason is simply because I don't have to. The reactolite blog only required 2 posts to rank number 1. What I'm trying to say is this - content is necessary only to the extent that you need something relevant on your sites (targeted keywords). This takes 10% of my time. I spend the other 90% of my time getting links. Posting is a waste of my time unless I need to add keywords to a site or trigger different Adsense ads. Otherwise leave it alone and work on the links. The links are what make you money - not the content. This is true for what I do at least.
I don't think I can simplify my system any more than this. Yes there is lots to learn when it comes to tweaking sites to optimize your income but that is something you can all learn once you have the traffic. Put all that aside and get the traffic first. Create keyword optimized sites - get keyword optimized backlinks. This will bring you traffic. If the traffic doesn't pan out - stick it in the farm and create more. And more. And more. Build your own network and as you grow you will start to dominate the niches that do have traffic. Too many of you are starting out looking for the 1 great niche or doing the MMO thing. This is fine for the long term and you can keep plugging away but maybe you should work on some reactolite type sites just to see some immediate results.
Okay - this is long enough. I want to talk about Google and its move towards social metrics in the next post. Fiar and Gary have both questioned me on this issue and I want to explore it further.
Until then here are a couple of blog posts that made me chuckle this week.
see Splork's Crap is Still King
and VicW's Make Money Blogging
Cheers,
Griz
192 comments:
That is basically all I use SEO elite for as well...i've tried playing around with it and keyword elite...but hmmm.
But you are right links are king (I am starting to see the light!)
A few link campaigns (well 1 or 2 links per post) have got be ranking on the top/ front page for uncompetitive terms but that are now pulling in steady search engine traffic.
What I have basically done is pick a keyword per article (in retrospect) and linked it up and seen that almost all of them now rank well.
Next step target a competitive term :D
Ok. After a long long search , I think I have found the virtual nirvana I have been seeking off. Here I go on my endless mayhem of creating blogs. Adsense Clickers. Here I come. You should click on my ads too.
1) I heard Bloggers was for beginners :) (saw that on the Warrior forum)
2) I am having some luck getting individual posts up in the serps and making money that way. Like you are saying, throw up a lot of posts, see which ones stick, and then start getting backlinks to those that show promise.
Bruce
I hear by declare February as my "throw a bunch of crap against the wall" content and blog building month.
Thanks Griz
Griz,
Great post and thanks...one question is how do you monetize a site with Adsense if it is under a different account than your main adsense account? Doesn't that expose your adsense account info to G adn then they know what sites are yours?
Griz, 2 things:
1. I have to admit that every time i open my RSS reader I wish to see a new post from your web site. Keep more posts coming...
2. I have a question regarding targeting multiple different keywords on the same site. Assume that on a web site you target 10 different and distinct keywords. What is the best way to approach this. Concentrate on one keyword at a time (write 5-6 posts and try to get the backlinks for that keyword) or write a post on each of the different keywords (i.e 10 posts - one for each different keyword) and then start again from the beginning? What is your recommendation?
Legendary Grizz!
Is 37k a new record? And bang in the middle of the recession. Brilliant.
I love the money posts - they keep me inspired and make me work EVEN harder, and sleep less, If that's possible... I don't even know if I do sleep anymore...
Hi Griz
As always, thanks for the informative post. You seemed to say that you put non-performing sites into the link farm. I've heard people say that having links from the same IP address aren't worth much. Do you have an opinion on that?
Hey Griz - The Computer Lady (aka Butt Ugly blogs do make money) here once again. I couldn't agree with you more about the backlinks and how it doesn't take that much work as far as content to get your sites ranked.
I still wonder what the fuss is all about concerning PR though and maybe you could enlighten me? I had yet another site, which is 4 months old, rank 4 just the other day. It jumped from PR1 to PR4. Did my traffic magically jump up? No! So why do I care about PR and what is it really for?
On another note, I have to thank you for all of your help. One of my sites is now getting national attention and while I didn't really want to be a social blogger it appears that is where I am headed.
I am now writing for a major TV blog and will be featured on a National TV show this coming week. It's all because of my hobby and it is something I am passionate about. That is why the site took off I believe. I have also learned that you can still write in niches that are saturated and have been around forever as long as you have something slightly unique and different. My blog also took off because of the tricks I have learned from you that I continue to do each day so you are a big part of my success. You might want to check "me" out and see :) http://www.sweetiessweeps.com (This is just one of my "personalities")
I also was wondering a few things. I know it is important to get backlinks from high PR sites but why can't I just focus on creating my own sites and backlinking to myself and not spend so much time finding links from other people? It is too timeconsuming for me to hunt down backlinks.
I have done both, backlinking from my own sites and getting links from other people. The links from other people have come from the contacts I made from your Niche links page so thank you very much.
Oh, and, ALL of my blogs are Blogger blogs. I love WordPress but I also love FREE stuff more!
Well, that's all for now. Thanks for yet another informative article.
I wonder where you got the content for the Reactolite Spectacles blog. ;)
Great info on researching ranking and just keep trying stuff. Too many people get bogged down in over analyzing this stuff.
Forgive me for being a complete and total dufus but how does your spectacle blog make money? Is it just not time for Adsense yet?
Always a pleasure to read your posts, much of which confirms what I've seen happening on my blogs for a while... Thanks again, Griz
As I understand this is a post to trigger the SEO software keywords, right?
Grizz,
Okay, is this new toolbar you are suggesting an attempt to see if we learned from your "affiliate marketing" post? lol.
I do like your explanation of how to target a farm blog. I would imagine this would help with making your links have more authority since they would be coming from well ranked sites even though the competition isn't necessarily tough for most of the farm blogs.
Thanks for the lesson and stay warm.
BTW, I forgot to mention January was my best adsense month ever. It was nothing to write home about, but I'm in this for the long haul and I'm making progress, so thanks for all the help! You and Court are the real deal!
Hi Griz,
Did you get my 2 emails? (damn I forgot to put the usual title on them so you might have missed them) one is about foreign language blogs...
For someone who doesn't like to post much, you're doing a lot of "not posting" for no good reason lmao!
Anyway, you'll be glad to hear those crafty Cubans figured out how to repel the nasty British weather than was causing mayhem down here - they sent us a tropical storm! Oh joy, the power has been out most of the weekend and with it the Internet... nice entertaining lightning storms tho' ...
Interesting post! I have to scratch my head and wonder, though, when I saw the Reactolite Spectacles site. Don't get me wrong - I love your blogs and the simple straightforward advice. But honestly, that blog is pure keyword soup! If I wanted to learn about those sunglasses and how they worked etc, I would NOT be able to figure it out from the content on that site.
Yet its ranked #1. How did it get that way, if content is supposed to be so important? I know you've said you build ugly websites that people want to escape from by clicking on your Adsense ads...I'd definitely say you succeeded with this one! ;-) I guess I'll stop wasting time on posts that make sense, and just focus on the keywords!
Thanks for writing a post not geared toward MMO-guru-wannabes. It's helpful for me with my affiliate niche sites. I have no interest in MMO sites, so all advice on other types of site are very appreciated!
BTW, I have to disagree with you on that Project Payday site. I tried the whole program out for about a week and a half, and found that it's barely this side of a scam. And too many of the participants in it are out and out scammers (try googling some of the names of the advertisers). The only way to make money at it is to suck in newbies, NOT by actually working the program. JMO!
Alice
Thanks, my first time here and this struck a chord with me. Do you scatter your farm sites across different hosts? Or are they all blogger sites?
Grizz,
Thanks so much for the info on SEO Elite. I have had this software since it first came out and I am still learning how to use it to its most effective benefit. Thanks for sharing this. I never know for sure how my sites are ranking. Now I will know.
Finding the low hanging fruit is the hardest part. I have just begun starting a whole new approach to building sites using different C-class sites. Now to make them as targeted as I can with the long tails. Does this mean that I need to make sure they have a fair amount of Adsense on them first?
I am definitely impressed as to how you can come up with so much info in two posts on a topic I have never heard of before.
Crap is definitely king. I will be pursuing all kinds of crap in the future myself. Splork is a master and I intend to make him my guru. Not really, but I like to read it anyway.
Jez you wondered if I could rank well for a non-bloggy niche like "reactolite spectacles".
Here you go... Reactolite Spectacles
Blog Content Wizard, anyone.
Lol.
Hey griz, you a GSP fan? Best fighter Canada has ever produced(IMHO)! Completely dominated BJ Penn!
You know what's funny about the ants scratch their ass thing, google actually corrects me "Did you mean do ants scratch there ass" lol
And yes, definitely gonna stick to it for years. You're gonna have to deal with my spam comments until the internet dies, sorry. :)
Thanks for this post--transparency is so rare in this line of work.
I went over to Reactolite Spectacles and recognized the autogenerated post right away. It has a soporific effect, kind of like a good hit of Nyquil before bedtime. I just bought the product (thanks Frank, nice work) and am using it to generate placeholder text as I register domains to feed keywords to the Googlebot before the human traffic shows up. Later when I have more sites, it will be good for building my network blogs. Not intended for human consumption, of course.
Question: does knowing the pagerank of a competing site's backlinks help me analyze that site's strength? Over at Keyword Academy, Court says that to beat a competing site with a PR4 backlink, I'd need one more PR4 backlink than it has. That's with all other variables being equal--equally good on-page SEO, all backlinks keyword anchored, equal site age, etc. I know the PR of my own site doesn't mean anything (Griz's blog is still #2 for MMO with its big fat PR0), but does it matter with my backlinks?
Reason I ask is, SEO Elite is way better than the SEObook tool for gathering information about the competition's backlinks. I just need to know whether that information is useful.
Sorry for the delay in posting the comments folks. I try and stick around after posting but had a meeting. Would you believe it's super bowl sunday and the lodge satellite TV went down. I have a room full of angry guests. Seems Bell ExpressVu (our satellite provider in Canada) is claiming the weather is the culprit. Nice timing - sheesh.
Anyway... on to the questions.
Bruce,
I saw the same post on WF. Noobs who think they know it all.
Your synopsis is dead on. Finding the promising ones is tedious but I don't know any other way. Trial and error.
Secondary Income,
Use a big shovel when throwing crap - it's more efficient. ;-)
Elliot,
Without admitting anything publicly - most people who do this have several Adsense accounts. Btw- I would never add Adsense to a blog like reactolite spectacles. Only add adsense to sites that are legit and then it doesn't matter if G sees all your sites.
Myln,
Target a keyword with each post title and then use lots of related keywords in each post. Each post then receives backlinks targeting the keyword in the post titles. Link all posts to the home page and it will build keyword authority for all the keywords as each post builds authority for its own keyword.
Or you can write agonizingly long posts using the main keyword in the post title and lots of secondary keywords in the post. Then produce backlinks for every keyword and point them all at the same post.
In general whatever the anchor is in your backlinks is what the page will rank for. I could send 100 backlinks to the reactolite site using "sunglasses" as the anchor and have it rank well for that term instead of "reactolite spectacles". It is the backlinks that get the ranking - not the post. You just want relevant content in case someone checks.
Joomla,
Yup a new record for Adsense. A nice surprise too after the Nov/Dec lull in earnings.
Griz
lmao...That's some crazy ass content on the Reactolite page lol! Would you ever use a site like that for an adsense campaign?Would you make changes if started to get traffic Or would this only be another one for the farm.Would it not get flagged by G.I noticed there are alot of links to your Blinkweb farm site all coming from your friend at Optempo
Log Home Guy
Lane,
Too many links from the same C class IP will set off flags that someone is using a link farm. I have found that 4-5 links from Blogger is fine. You could use 50 and get away with it as long as you have several hundred links from other IP's. It is all relative. This blog has 100 or more blogger links (all the same c class ip) but this is a small percentage of my total links. In this case all the blogger links are legit (from readers and not my farm) and G doesn't penalize me. If I only had 100 links in total and all were from blogger then G would likely ignore them. If it looks natural you are fine.
Think of it like this - too many links from the same c-class IP as a percentage of your total links is bad. 5 or 10 out of 100 is fine. 80 out of 100 is bad.
Wendy,
Congrats on the exposure you are getting. Well done and I hope it pays off for you.
PR has nothing to do with your serp rankings. I'm a PR0 these days and you see how well I rank. PR is more for the social crowd and is virtually worthless for what I am teaching. A high PR site linking to you has more juice than a low PR site but you can rank just fine using your own farm and a mixture of low PR links from others.
PR is pretty much dead.
Frank,
Lol.
I thought you would enjoy that. I put one real post (kinda) and one that your Blog Content Wizard spit out on the blog, rounded up a couple of links and presto - number 1. Who said content is King? ha. This should prove more than anything that crap can rank well as long as the backlinks are anchored keywords. I would never ad Adsense to the site but the site wasn't meant for that. I just wanted to show how little work was needed to dominate un-competitive keywords.
Hey Griz, just realized that you are using blog content wizard for that Reactolite site, I hadn't read the blog on my first pass, but now that did, i'm impressed. For keyword rich and utterly unreadable blogs like that, do you monetize or just use it for the farm?
Thanks again
Anonymous,
You aren't a dufus - I should have explained - that site will never make any money. As I just mentioned to Frank - I did it just to show how easy ranking on the serp's can be. It was built as a farm blog and nothing more.
Original Business Ideas,
You catch on quick. Yes the post is targeting "SEO" keywords. The people in the SEO niche make me sick just like the MMO crowd. It's time to start my ascent in that niche now.
Hi Grizz,
Inspiring! I'm going along with your way nowadays. Stopped doing all those mini sites selling 7 dollars stuffs and all. I figured I am not cut out for it because every time I write a bombastic sales letter it makes me feel bad. LOL.
I have also "graduated" myself from the Academy as I feel uncomfortable and out of place with all the "corporate" meetings these days which I have no part in. Would surely have stayed on if I am part of the new venture. In all fairness, I did learn a lot during the few short initial months.
Hope you would post more often though. You are my only source of inspiration left, with every one closing their doors and charging fees for information these days.
About Garry Conn, did you see his latest videos trying to imitate Vic's style? That guy is pathetic. LOL.
Thanks again for the post Grizz.
Does anyone use Rank Checker? It costs money, plus about $80 per year to keep updated....
http://www.link-assistant.com/rank-tracker/
Or Long Tail Magic ??
Or SuperSiteTracker from Leger?
I am trying to pick some software... thanks!
Medic,
Just remember not to link to crap farm sites from your important sites. You can link from crap to good sites but never the other way around. I could have sent 1 single link from this site to rank number 1 but that wouldn't be smart.
Medic,
I'm glad you are seeing progress and yes - Court is the real deal. I urge everyone to read his new blog thekeywordacademy.com. Court and Mark are excellent teachers and the only difference in what they do and what I do is in scope. They target blogs for a single or limited number of keywords (sniping) and I target blogs for multiple keywords. The process we both use is the same accept that Court doesn't stray from white hat which is admirable. The man is as legit as they come.
Terry,
I'll hunt down your emails - sorry the inbox is just stupid but I'll find them.
I had to get another SEO post up - guess what keyword I was targeting for the first two weeks of January when my Adsense was flying high? Yup - SEO. Let's see if lightning will strike twice.
Speaking of lightning - sorry to hear about your weather. (choke) Sure glad I'm in Canada enjoying the sun and prancing about in this 30 below zero paradise. I'd hate to be in SPAIN with you...
Charms, (Alice)
If you read the other comments then you know now that I slapped the crap content on there just to show that it could be done and still rank number 1. If I had intended to use Adsense on it I never would have used a spun article.
As for Project Payday I have been getting a few people telling me the same thing - I hated it and haven't used it in ages. I'm in a bind as the damn thing makes me money and I don't want to remove it until I find a good replacement. I'm hoping my readers will ask me before signing up - the search crowd can have at it.
I do feel like crap about it though - just hard to toss something that spits out $1900 in a month. (I'm human after all.) I appreciate your input and I am looking for something better.
Anonymous,
Most of the farm is Blogger although I have added WP to the mix and Hubs, Lenses and a smattering of other platforms.
Denise,
You said - "Does this mean that I need to make sure they have a fair amount of Adsense on them first?"
I think you meant to say "content" instead of Adsense. To target lots of keywords then yes - add lots of relevant content using all the long tails you can think of.
As for finding info on topics you have no knowledge of - just search through GoArticles and rewrite other peoples articles. Or rewrite the info found on the top blogs in the niche. Don't copy - rewrite.
RT,
Splork makes me laugh. He sees through all the crap better than anyone so it's fitting he has finally caught on that crap works. lol.
Fiar,
Now how did you know I used Blog Content Wizard... lol.
BooBoo - GSP is in amazing shape. I wouldn't get in the octagon with him.
My ants rank for both "their" asses and "there" asses - clever huh?
Lorecee,
All things being equal then yes - it will take higher PR links to beat your competitor. Knowing the PR of your competitors "anchored links" is very important and those are the links you will have to beat. You can ignore all of their un-anchored links (regardless of PR) as those links mean nothing.
Another fine post Griz. And it's always good to see one, no matter what the hell it's about. I'm hooked to this frankensite and it keeps me pushing forward.
I'm posting to let you know that I just had a first $20 AdSense day. I still hardly believe it, because I'm one lazy SOB and I feel like I just started doing this. Damn, and when I think I never used LV, BS, TK or any other link network. God knows what AdSense days wait for me in the future.
Many thanks.
Live long and keep linking,
James
Thanks Griz...
Blog Content Wizard isn't intended for Adsense sites, or at least the raw output isn't. It is good at providing a rewriting framework where you blend its output in with rewritten PLR or other articles. With a few minutes work you can put together an article that's basically readable and has useful information while also being quite long and dull
Log Home Guy,
If I got traffic to the site I would re-do the site into something legit. I knew going in that there was no traffic for that keyword so I slapped it up pretty quick. As for Frank's links - yup there are a few. He enjoys using that rotating blogroll and throwing up some pretty funny anchored keywords - he's trying to get me on top of the "Oil Filter" niche lately.
Matt,
As mentioned - I would never use Adsense on a splog. Legit sites only. This one is definitely farm material.
Costa,
Not to worry old friend - we won't be charging fees around here any time soon (read never). I'll be posting until Blogger closes up shop or gives me the boot. One advantage with Adsense - I don't need money from my readers to make a living at this.
I haven't checked out the Conn man in awhile - too hard to take.
Nice hearing from you Costa and I hope all is well.
Freddy,
I'm not familiar with any of those but you might get some feedback from others.
James,
Congrats on the Adsense milestone. I should mention that if you can squeeze out $20/day in a niche then you can usually squeeze it for more - sometimes a lot more. The $20 barrier is the hardest to break - lots of sites make less but few sites can reach that number and it is one of the signs that you have a winner when you do.
Start adding more keywords if possible and backlink the hell out of it. Not to get you excited but you may have a $100/day site in the making. It won't happen over night but you have a site worth putting some effort into.
Frank,
Ooops, I'm a jackass. I should have mentioned that your program produces much better articles (with a little tweaking) than the one I used. Sorry about that.
If anyone isn't familiar with Blog Content Wizard I should have mentioned that I created that horrid article on purpose and it isn't a reflection of Frank's program. Just a reflection of my warped sense of humor.
Well Griz,
You have this habit of writing and posting novellas as blog posts. This time there are two in a post. The first one ended with a great climax $37,213.76. Let me enjoy the post-reading period of thoughts and come back to read the next one.
I thought of commenting on your blog only after a little success blogging but could not resist this time. You are the reason why I sustained without much success all these months (more than a year). Your posts apart from teaching, motivate a lot to continue pursuing online income.
By the way, My first Adsense check is on the way.
Great post as usual. Everytime I read one of your posts I find something to help increase my adsense income.
Venkat,
I'm so glad to hear the check is on the way - may it be the first of many. Unlike most I got my first check after my first month using Adsense - long ago and it was all black hat stuff then. Everyone made money in those days from Adsense as G hadn't tightened the screws yet.
Paul,
I'm glad you find something useful in my posts - I think they put most people to sleep or they cause others to run like hell! Thankfully a good chunk of them escape by clicking the ads.
Btw - I like your site/niche - unique and very well done.
Griz - is there some reason you wouldn't slap up eBay links or somesuch on the Reactolite site or others of the same type?
Hi Griz,
I absolutely love your posts and your writing style first off, and I am saying this first so you don't think I am trolling around a bit.
I understand where you are coming from when you tell your readers that they probably need to start with something small, niche wise and then move up as they become more comfortable with how SEO works...the only problem is that the traffic won't be there in most cases for the long tails to warrant investing the time/money in most cases, and the blog itself isn't as scalable as an authority blog in which someone could simply build and build and actually compete with the bigger terms.
I think that this may be because you know that most people won't take the time and effort to actually rank for something that brings in hundreds or thousands of uniques a day. In other words, most want the money right this instant...not 3 years down the road (which is good for those of us that actually have the time and patience to build these types of sites)
The problem with long tail websites are that they can easily be gobbled up by bigger authority websites, should one of these sites decide to pursue it (they may...they may not...but as more corporations get involved in SEM, I think that you will start to see those long tails start to become more competitive).
...oh, and if that site (a site like reactolite) was in a competitor's cross hairs, you can bet that it would be reported and because there wasn't enough "bulk" to the site, chances are it would be 'de-ranked'.
Which leads me to this site....your site is an authority site. And while you probably wouldn't give out information, chances are the sites that are your best earners are authority sites as well, not the one or two page micro sites that are thin on content and that could be reported by an overzealous marketer.
I started reading this site about a year and a half ago. I love your writing style. It is clear and concise and made in a way that both the search engines and your readers can relate to.
And while you admit that you don't do social marketing, ironically enough, I found your site through Court's blog (I believe he was already ranking for internet marketing at that time)...which led me to Vic's blog...
It was almost as if you three had devised a "mini-social structure" in which all 3 of you could grab traffic from each other...and in turn...increase your pagerank and authority by socially connecting people interested in internet marketing with blogs about internet marketing and making money online...(maybe I am a bit off here...I am a crazy conspiratist).
And the best part about it is you have taught those under you how to properly anchor text...the result is that if people link to you, it is most likely with the anchor text that you want because you have taught them how.
It is absolutely ingenious.
Anyway, that's about it for now...just a little comment fodder for the search engines for you.
Grizz, every time you write one of these posts, there's one thing that constantly comes to my mind: "Darn, that's a long post!".
Now seriously, I didn't really mean to stir so much controversy over the SEO Elite issue. Everyone should use whatever works for them, I personally have issues with all the gurus and that's also the reason why I prefer other alternatives.
... (darn, that's a long post).....
Griz, since you're saying that Ledger's 3WayLinks system doesn't work, are there any similar programs out there that you DO recommend?
Thanks,
Mikael
Hi Griz,
Thanks for the comment and the link! I shall keep the faith and endeavour to create my own beaver farm! (Do they have beaver farms?) Much apreciated. VicW
Grizzly - I don't have the time to read all of the comments so forgive me if this has been asked. I've been reading for a while so I know I need relevant content and anchored links with the the exact anchor text. Also I know how to pick and target keywords using seo elite.
However, I don't have a blog farm and I use the resources like your niche support. But bottom line is where are you finding all of your links????
I understand if this is a secret but if not let us come play in the land of endless one way anchored links.
As always thank you for sharing your knowledge
Bob,
"Griz - is there some reason you wouldn't slap up eBay links or somesuch on the Reactolite site or others of the same type?"
There are a few reasons. Security is the main reason. I have a growing base of spies who are constantly poking around trying to find all my sites. One way of doing this is by tracking aff ID's, Adsense Pub #'s, Analytics Id's etc. I'm not sure about ebay (don't use them) but CJ and other ad networks are easy enough to follow.
When I reveal a site to my readers I am conscious not to put anything on it that could lead to my hidden sites.
Another reason is that I don't monetize sites until I have steady search traffic for my keywords. No point and I find that I can rank better and faster with a site if it doesn't appear to be thrown up for the purpose of just making money.
The last reason is that I create farm sites to use for links and to funnel traffic to my money sites. I don't want the reader wandering off to ebay or commission junction.
Leo,
You mentioned...
"the only problem is that the traffic won't be there in most cases for the long tails to warrant investing the time/money in most cases, and the blog itself isn't as scalable as an authority blog in which someone could simply build and build and actually compete with the bigger terms."
I have never done a proper post on building farms and I think my objectives with sites like reactolite are not understood.
You don't build these sites for traffic - if you get traffic then you quickly change course and legitimize it before the competition starts reporting it - you build these sites to develop keyword authority in order to use them to dominate a niche with your main money site.
If I was to target the keyword "Sunglasses" which does get traffic I would build 5-10 sites like reactolite each targeting different long tails. I would create a few hubs, some lenses, use a few link networks etc and once all the sites have a little PR and more importantly decent ranking for their long tail (keyword authority) I would then start sending links from them to my money site (or a secondary site which would tie into my money site). The money site would be the authority site - strictly legit and safe from the competition.
Farm blogs require little time or money invested (reactolite took a half hour of my time) and they should never be looked at as something you will make money from. They are simply a resource you have for link building.
In short farm sites are tools you use to build your authority sites with.
When I say I don't do social marketing - I mean I don't use Digg, Stumble, forums or any of the other web 2.0 resources. I don't waste time trying to increase readership in any way. My readership has evolved on its own without any help from me.
As for Vic and Court - there is no conspiracy. I have always been a proponent of SEO. At one time it seemed I was the only one who understood the power of Google. Everyone in the IM world flogs social networking for traffic. Very few understand search traffic and none of the A-list ever talks about ranking in Google. They talk about using twitter. Bloggers chasing bloggers and wondering why they don't make any money.
When I came across Vic and Court I liked them instantly - they were the first two people I have met in this business (outside of black hatters) that not only understand SEO but also preach it. We have different methods but our goals are the same - drive search engine traffic and make money. People assume we talk all the time and collaborate - not so. We rarely chat and don't collaborate as we are all busy doing what we do. This is probably my fault as I would love to work with them but quite frankly I work best on my own. I just don't have the time to work with others as my daily schedule doesn't allow me to pre-arrange anything. (I run a full time business in the real world) It has taken me an hour to write this comment due to numerous interruptions at work.
As for teaching people how to use anchored links - you bet. If people are linking to you then they may as well give you links that help. This wasn't just for my benefit though - all my readers are exchanging proper links with each other now and everyone is benefiting from it.
Thanks Leo - you sure make me work in the comments! lol.
Paul,
"Darn, that's a long post!"
Lol. Never mind the posts - the comments are even longer!
I'm glad you brought up the SEO Elite issue - we are all wiser today because of it.
Mikael,
Backlink Solutions, Linkvana, are fine if used properly. The best system is RT's ConnectContent, as all the people using it know the game plan and won't screw it up. And RT knows how to manage it. The problem with all the other networks is that the people using it are noobs and will eventually bugger it up because they don't know how to run a backlink campaign.
The niche support page (on the MMO Griz blog) is also a good option - the people involved are all my readers and don't need lessons. concerning backlinks.
Thank you. I follow a lot of your advice. I'm ranking well in the Serps with my Blogs, mainly using the free Google Keyword Tool. I know it has its limits, but it's working fine for me so far. Because of your free advice I'm finally making money with Adsense and I have earned quite a few $1 to $2 clicks. I haven't gone over $2 per click but If I average $0.16 or more a click I consider that success.
Hi Griz:
One stupid question related with your post on PPC webspy- How do I remove it from my browser?
Marc, (one mans goal)
"But bottom line is where are you finding all of your links????"
I can't say publicly - forgive me. I have mentioned several places in my post and you will find them in the sidebar.
I do have sources that I don't talk about - not to be a prick - just to protect my assets. Let's just say that if you use the available sources and build up an authority site or two you will find that you have a lot of clout when it comes to working out deals with others who also have clout. The more you have to give then the more you will get. If I wanted a link from the top sites in "sunglasses" for example they would laugh at me if I offered a ink from the reactolite site. They wouldn't laugh if I offered them ten links from ten farm sites though.
In the end your best source for links will come from your own network - either directly or by using your farm to barter.
Marion,
The Free Adwords Keyword tool is as good as anything when it comes to straight up keyword research. I'm glad to hear you are making some headway with adsense - just keep plugging along.
Stock Market,
Ooops - I should have mentioned how to un-install it.
In firefox go to "tools" - then "Add-Ons".
You will get a box showing all your firefox add-ons listed. Just scroll down until you find the PPC Web Spy add-on and click un-install.
You will have to restart the browser once it finishes.
That's it.
Grizzo!
You mention your "reactolite spectacles" blogspot blog but I notice there isn't much "advertisers" for that niche. What is the point to targeting a niche with no Adsense to make money off of, other than building a blog farm?
Hi Sarah,
I have answered that question a few times here in the comments. Forgive me as time is short at the moment - could you look for the answer above.
Thanks
Griz,
Thanks for info about content wizard and reaffirming CC. Question, Seth's site. It appears most of his A-links have his name (per KE). How does he rank so high for how to make money online? I don't want to me in the niche but I like to periodically look at to get ideas. Your 2 cents please?
Hey Grizzo...
I should've read the comments before opening my big mouth! lol
Griz, I started my site as a long term niche that I would build slowly as I learn. But it shows results sooner than I thought and now I know I have a winner.
I have 8-10 posts that are on page 2 or 3 that have around 5.000 or more searches per month in Adwords Tool (exact setting). My main keyword gets 240.000 per month (2.700.000 broad setting) and I am on page 2 to 4 (depending on Data Center). I'm adding keyword posts and link to them, but I'm concerned with link quality.
I stopped using article links, AMA and all those crappy links and will probably use LV now, since they seem to be of higher quality and harder to trace. What do you recommend for quality links, that is, the links that won't be too suspicious if someone starts snooping around? I know I can make a lot with this site, but I'm a bit scared since I've never been on this level.
Thanks again
Grizz
Creating farm would Google see it as link farms?
IMO you should write a new post about farm and how to monetize indirectly from it.
Grizz
Creating farm would Google see it as link farms?
IMO you should write a new post about farm and how to monetize indirectly from it.
Also how do you hide and unhide the naviagation bar at blogger templates..
Hi Griz,
Is Project Payday worth signing up for? I've been browsing a couple of the IFW forums and was looking into trying it out.
From what I read on this blog PP seemed like a good way to start. Is it better off to start by using the info from the various IFW forums?
Btw. I'm Canadian as well (Winnipeg), some nice pictures on your about me page. I've been reading your blog for awhile, I always look forward to seeing new posts from your site show up in my rss reader.
Dan
Jeremy "Also how do you hide and unhide the naviagation bar at blogger templates.."
http://beginner-blogger-basics.blogspot.com/2008/12/how-to-remove-blogger-navbar.html
It's on the sidebar.
Hey Griz, you should give us some tips on how to trade links. Do you offer several PR1s for a PR2? Hard to trade when all you have is 3 PR2s and some PR0-1s :(
How about a "How to build your network without getting banned" post :)
I think Terry's paranoia rubbed off on me. I now have 4 statcounter accounts..
Great post Grizz. For those of you stopping by here for the first time, this guy really knows his stuff.
You mentioned only writing when you want to tweak AdSense or keywords. I learned this lesson the hard-way...even after you had written about it. My CPC went in the toilet and I figured I had been smart-priced. After further investigation I realized that my latest post caused G to throw up ads that weren't related to my content...I hate it when that happens!
Thanks for sharing your experience. I hope you got things all squared away at the lodge. We don't have to worry about frozen pipes down here in AZ :)
Wow, Griz, First time I think I've seen you talk about link farms in the open!
You really laid it out here for sure! Thanks for being so open...guess you don't have to worry about losing your PR :)
Not worried about a manual adjustment? Your long comment to leo was like a bonus post...lined with nice little gems....
Matt2257
Hi Griz,
Wow thanks for that... shame the grammer was so bad in my original comment :-D
I was not suggesting you did not know what you were doing... sorry if it came across like that.
This is a great example, sure I will learn from looking at that blog.
Cant believe you took time out to do this... thanks :-D
Jez
Dennis,
Seth's site doesn't rank well for "How to Make Money" - his post on "How to Make Money Using the Internet" does. If you check the links for his home page they are all using his name. If you check the links for the post in question then you will see quite a few using the "how to make money" anchor. Hence his post ranks well due to the anchored links and the fact that his site as a whole is an authority blog and he used the keyword in his post title.
I rank well for a lot of terms that I don't have any links for - just based on my authority. ie. "Make Money Online in Canada" is an example. If an authority site uses a keyword in the post title they can rank well for it even without anchored backlinks (if competition is low). If the competition is high then a few backlinks pointed at the post can usually win out. This is a prime example of why I tell people to use deep links - don't just link to your home page.
James,
Have you tried RT's ConnectContent? And the Niche Support Page over on the Griz Blog?
You might also look at approaching individual sites that are closely related to your niche (but not direct competitors) and working out a swap.
Sorry, it's hard mustering a plan of action without knowing what the niche is but the two sources above are quite discrete and all the members are "In the know" if you get my meaning.
Good luck - it sounds interesting.
Anonymous,
I have avoided talking about link farms as it isn't something one should discuss in public. They work but most people don't build them right or use them properly and get slapped by G. I am contemplating a new site devoted to this topic and will let people know about it discretely if and when I get it together.
Jeremy -
"how do you hide and unhide the naviagation bar at blogger templates.."
Follow this link
How to Remove Blogger's NavBar
Dan,
I'm getting more and more feedback that the IFW sites are attracting more scammers than ever so tread carefully. The system does work but you have to use the forums and check on the reputations of the people you are engaging with. Go slow and get to know the participants.
BooBoo,
You need to build up your resources before you can barter effectively. ie. More sites.
Larry G,
Thanks for the words of support. It's a fine art learning how to trigger the right Adsense ads. I still screw up all too often myself. Trial and error I'm afraid. You sure learn which keywords NOT to use! lol
(Everything at the lodge is back to working... knock on wood)
Griz..THANK YOU.. The missing piece. When analyzing competition.. I have failed to look at the links for individual posts.. I knew about deep linking .. However, for some reason I never made the connection to analyzing the competitions individual pages. Something so simple and costly and simple an area that explains what I was doing wrong. Also, In my prior comment I meant to say I am not targeting MMO.. I look at them to get ideas.. I need to proof read. lol
Also, Saturday.. When I did a search for How to make money online he was sitting under your site. I don't look for that term often..I was surprised so I looked at his site. Today he is # 11 in our data center for how to make money online.
I heard that ConnectContent is quite useful, so I'm gonna sign in as soon as I get LV and BS off my back.
Thanks for your words Griz, I appreciate it.
Matt2257,
I won't be getting too detailed about farms here - not something a person wants to publicize.
Jez,
Poor wording on my part - I didn't take it as criticism - I realized your frustration at link building without the aid of friends. Just wanted to show you that you can rank well in non social niches with a little creative linking from other sources.
Hope it helped Jez and I'm glad you brought it up.
Grizz,
I wish you would quit posting your earnings it just makes me sick, lol. I will say that from reading your site I do now get a steady check from google and ebay. Just wanted to stop and say hi and thanks again for your posts.
"If an authority site uses a keyword in the post title they can rank well for it even without anchored backlinks (if competition is low)."
This is something that I've found true on OpTempo time and time again. Just don't ask me how it got to that point though aside from getting links.
Gotafish,
Nice to hear from you - been a while. Glad you are still at it and that the checks are showing up. Don't be a stranger! :-)
Frank,
Google loves authority sites as you and, I suspect, Fiar both know by now. After watching you two I started multi-niching (new word?) one of my formerly laser targeted sites and can't believe the amount of semi-related terms I get top billing for. Links or no links - the big G just pushes the posts up the first page of the serp's. Some get bumped off after a few days and I find I just need a couple of decent links to bring them back.
The original niche did fine but was limited in terms of useful keywords - now the sky is the limit. I wouldn't have thought of it if I hadn't seen what you were doing, so a belated thanks!
Griz,
I've seen few people here claiming that they are now waiting for their first adsense check.
Well...
I'm going to claim the same - I'm waiting for my first Adsense cheque (playing with the international spelling lol)!!
Thanks to you Griz, you are the one who made this possible.
From $0.02 per day and most of the time zero, I was almost going to give adsense up until I found your make money online blog.
Due to your exceptional advices on how to make money, my Adsense income has increased significantly in only about 3 months. After 6 months, I've been earning around 2-3 dollars a day now. Still a small amount, but I'm confident with the way where it is going now.
Thanks again for your help Griz...;-)
-joe from mymode-
Hi Grizz,
Based on what you said earlier "I have avoided talking about link farms as it isn't something one should discuss in public. They work but most people don't build them right or use them properly and get slapped by G." I am assuming it is not a smart move to try and build a farm if you don't know exactly what you are doing?
Thanks,
Bridget
Hi.
Reading your post I saw that you were looking for free versions of what you have in SEO elite. After reading that I wanted to find something that would rank your site for certain keywords like you showed in the post. I found this and it claims to be free.
http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/keywords/
Will be trying it out but thought I would share with you Griz.
Hey Griz,
Absolutely love the blog. I am astounded by your adsense earnings, truly excellent work there. I participated in a 6 month VRE (virtual real estate) challenge where we were taught how to build niche sites and monetize them with adsense. The part about getting links? Missing... Can you guess what happened to the participants? I think you can.
I bought some 30 to 40 sites from these people, many at $1/article for original content! It was a total disaster. I am going to revamp every one of these sites and add articles and backlinks just like you point out. Oh, sent you an advertising inquiry, I know you are busy. Thanks again for all the tips here. BTW, I have an Internet Marketing blog where I take on different ways of making money online! Maybe I'll add you to the sidebar as my readers would surely benefit.
Thomas C. Gajdjis
Griz,
Great post. Quick question regarding SERPs and backlinks. For a long tail keyword with like 6000 searches month how is it that a site ranks #1 with only 28 links total and none of its links have that keyword in anchor text. I ran it in SEO Elite and only two links have PR, one a PR4 (this one from Alexa) and another PR3. At the same time, my site is ranked on Page 2 of the SERPS and I have about 12 links with that keyword. Of course my links have PR0. Is it possible to move up the ranks with just building more backlinks with that anchor text or do I need some links with PR? I thought you had said before that you would rather have a PR0 link with the right anchor text than a PR3 link with your website name (or something else) as anchor text. Could the #1 ranking for the site be due to on-site SEO, age of the domain, etc.??
Griz,
Today my adsense revenue dropped to basically ZERO. Previously on a particular site, I used to get about $0.70 per click. Today, all of the clicks on this site returned $0.00!
The ads look like the same ads as in the past. Other sites are returning some revenue.
I wrote to G asking them what's going on...
Any suggestions?
Lane
Hi Griz, by link farming, do you happen to mean if I was to post a link to my page here in the comments, that I would be able to have a higher ranking on Google? Why would that work? What if everybody did that?
http://www.howtomakemoneyonline.tk
Hi Griz,
Nice post again.
Though you should be careful throwing around the term 'link farm' , even if Google doesn't click you will still have webmasters like Rand at SEOmoz ready to report any networks.
I am surprised people still don't understand how easy it is to rank for low competition keywords. I ranked 3rd for a low competition phrase just this week with nothing but optimised content and a few outbound anchored links. Thats another thing, I have found out that outbound links from your page anchored and sent to authoritive pages will actually increase your ranking, obviously keep it to around 5 per post.
Anyway keep it coming, your adsense figures are massive. :)
Joe,
Thanks Joe. I'm glad to hear your Adsense earnings are increasing.
Bridget,
Yup - you assume right. Building a farm is one thing but it's how you use it that can get you in trouble. Common sense should always prevail - if it doesn't look natural to you then it won't look natural to others. The trick to backlinking is to keep things looking legit.
Thomas,
Be careful with those "canned" sites as they leave footprints a mile wide. As you said "revamp" them and make each as original as you can.
Btw - just about every MMO program on line leaves out the "backlink" part. Unfortunately this means no traffic and nothing is going to make you money without the traffic.
I never say no to a link - Thanks Thomas.
KF,
You can dominate any niche with enough "anchored" backlinks regardless of PR. Having anchored high PR links just makes it a whole lot easier and faster. I'd have to know the site you are referring to in order to give an opinion as to why they rank so well. There is always a reason - sometimes it's just not obvious.
Lane,
It could be a number of things - poor traffic or some ass started clicking your ads repeatedly are the most likely culprits. Hard to know without being able to examine your traffic stats. Did you get a surge in traffic from a particular IP?
Best advice is to pull the ads for a few days. (use the dis-allow function in Adsense setup rather than removing the ads.) This is just a precaution in case someone is screwing with you. If you do see some funny activity from an IP report them to Google and mention that you think they are trying to sabotage your acct. (just to let them know that it isn't you)
Sorry I can't be of more help without more data.
Tim,
Comment links have nothing to do with link farms. If my comments were do-follow then you might gain a little juice but they aren't.
SEO Whizz,
That's interesting as I have not seen anything conclusive regarding outbound links except where the recipient allows the trackback to be posted in do-follow comments. Is this what you mean?
I know that linking to authority sites helps to establish the legitimacy of your own site and seems to keep you out of the box and it helps hold serp ranking but haven't seen it increase rank on its own. Like not monetizing - it's one of those tweaks that I use for appearance sake - it's something all legit sites do. I would love to hear more if you have tested this and seen an increase in ranking.
I know you said it wouldn't be wise to make "How to" blogs..but I did anyway lol. Been almost 2 months with this blog. I wasn't planning to put adsense on it, but I decided to test it anyway because it was getting lots of longtails, I got a bit of cash from it yesterday. It has like 5 posts and a few links from article directories.
http://i43.tinypic.com/157j6gk.jpg
You think it would be worth keeping and tweaking? I have higher CTR on my real adsense site.
Question, once I put adsense on a site I can't chuck it in with the farm blogs after right? Cause google knows it was mine and had adsense on it, or do they not give a damn?
-boo
Booboo,
If you test a site with adsense and it doesn't lead to smart pricing (a dip in CPC with your other adsense sites) then keep at it and tweak it for better revenue.
Yes - once you have added Adsense to a site you can't put it back on the farm. Keep it clean and legit.
Thanks griz.
Hey Griz,
The sites aren't canned, they are fast loading html sites, bare bones, optimized for se bots, not really for readers.
TomG.
PS - Sent you an email for an ad spot! Thanks!
I just noticed Seo Whiz's post. I have never heard of outbound links adding to your rankings otherwise tons of people would be doing this.
TomG.
Hi Griz,
I know you have said contextual links within posts are best, but you appear to have sidebar links on several of the support sites you have shared. Is there a reason for this discrepancy?
Thanks,
Greg
Griz,
With your niche sites do you ever build lists? Obviously with that adsense earnings you get massive traffic why not recycle some of it for affiliate or further adsense earnings?
@KF
I bet that the site that's number 1 has the exact keyword in the URL. ;)
Hey Grizz, Noob here.
I have two quick questions about making crap stick. When you put up a new blog how many visitors are you looking for and in what time frame , to let you know if the keyword is any good. So for a new blog are you looking for 60 visitors in a week. with ten posts and a few links.
What's your formula for traffic, time frame and posts to determine a keeper form a throw away.
Thanks
"Yes - once you have added Adsense to a site you can't put it back on the farm. Keep it clean and legit."
I do not understand this comment at all, Griz can you elaborate.
Also, did you get my e-mail Subject "2000 units in 2009" ?
Thnaks
Grizz,
Satellite issues during a 'watchable' Super Bowl?
*Ouch*
Funny enough, I was the loon who took the time to mention BCW on your Reactolite blog before reading the mentions of it here in your comment section. lol
On a more serious note: you claim zero expenses for this MMO blog. Does this mean that it is now successful enough in a most competitive niche that you do not need to bolster it with any links from a paid link network? That any suppport needed is supplied from your own fatrm or from friends/ i was just surprised by this thought because you have mentioned before that you are constantly on the prowl for links to keep you on page one of Google with this blog given the active competition. Are you self-sufficine t enough or is there any bartering going on which you did not need to give a cash value to since you are not out of pocket over it?
Geez, this Stephen guy from Vancouver is nosy, huh?
TomG,
I found the email - will get back to you.
Greg,
The sites I have shared aren't used for anything other than my demonstrations. If they were a part of my resources I would be working them properly using posts to funnel traffic and links. Put simply - I can't use them so I haven't done anything with them. Contextual post links are by far superior and the hardest to detect.
JeffJax,
Just a personal choice - I don't want to be a sleazy list marketer. Yes it works but it just isn't my style. If I have to go that route to make money online then there would be something wrong with my system - there isn't though and I'm happy as is. Money is necessary to live but I don't feel the need to make it using any means necessary. You can probably tell I don't think much of list builders so I'm not anxious to become one myself.
Paul,
You said...
"I bet that the site that's number 1 has the exact keyword in the URL. ;)"
That's one possibility and probably in the Post Title as well and it could be an authority site, the competition is low to nill, it may have 1 really good link etc. So hard to know without running it through the grinder. There is always a reason though.
"That's one possibility and probably in the Post Title as well and it could be an authority site, the competition is low to nill, it may have 1 really good link etc. So hard to know without running it through the grinder. There is always a reason though."
Well I assumed that the person asking knows how to put a good title tag.:) After all, he/she is reading your blog.
He said that the site at no 1 has 28 links so I don't really think it can be an authority site. He also mentioned that he himself has anchored links while the site at number 1 doesn't have anchored links.
The competition is probably as you said very low and the person asking may be also guilty of over optimization, too much concentration of the same anchor text out of the overall % of links.
... or it may just very well be the devil's work ...
Noob,
There is no hard and fast formula but I do look for certain things. This would take a really long post to explain properly - there are a ton of variables depending on the niche.
In general I just target long tails and by ranking them number 1 I can get a good idea of how much traffic the niche has. If it is a low CPC niche (under $1 a click) then I know I'll need several thousand search visitors a day to make it worth my while. If there is enough long tails to garner that many searches then I'll proceed. If there are not enough long tails I won't bother.
If it is a high CPC niche then I know I only need 500 or so visitors a day and look to see if the long tails and main keyword can provide the traffic. If not I don't bother.
Keep in mind that I'm not interested in $10/day sites. If I can't squeeze $50 per day or more out of a site I don't bother anymore. I only have so much time and building $10/day sites just aren't worth it to me. (They may be worth it to you though) I'd rather take longer and target the more competitive niches. The end results are so much better.
I'm generally looking for long tails that can produce 10-20 visitors a day before it hits page 1 in the serp's. If it does this I know the niche has traffic. If I get this traffic on page 2 it's a so-so niche. If it's page 3 I know I have a likely winner.
If the long tail has no competition (like reactolite) I can't make any judgment other than the niche probably only has a few keywords worth pursuing (Sunglasses/Eyeware). In this case I know before hand that the term "sunglasses" gets decent traffic so I will start out with a dozen sites targeting all the longtails I can think of but not for traffic - just to build up keyword authority for all the related sunglasses terms I can think of. Then I will use these sites to link to the money site.
Don't get confused between building blogs for the purpose of testing traffic in a niche and building blogs that are for supporting a niche you already know has traffic.
As I said at the start - this would need a long post to even begin to explain it all. This is a bit complex and I'll have to think about it for a bit and see if I can't post something that won't confuse more people than it helps.
BK,
I did get your email - sorry I'm a bit swamped but I will get back to you.
As for Adsense - once you have used it on a site the blog in question is now part of your "known" network as far as G is concerned. Anything you do with it from that point on will be attributable to you so be careful what you do with it. If you use it to link to a bunch of farm sites then you are leading G right to your network. If that network sends links out to other Adsense sites then G will know it is your farm and you will likely loose everything - the farm and your legit sites.
You have to be aware at all times what sites lead back to you and make sure they are all legit and that they never point to anything questionable.
Stephen,
My MMO sites are all legit - they are far too public for me to play with. Between the steady stream of links and the authority of the blogs they hold their own.
One thing I have noticed is that the competition is waning - I suspect a lot of the competitors who made page 1 have found out there is little money in this niche aside from Adsense. Remember almost all of them are social bloggers trying to sell crap to other bloggers. It doesn't work. If you aren't making money there is little incentive to keep beating a dead horse.
Paul,
Yup - scratch the authority angle. (I should have re-read the original comment before guessing. lol)
You are probably closer in assuming that KF may not be optimized properly; not enough variation in anchors and deep linking. As an example - 15 links out of 15 all using the same anchor pointing at the same post is not the way to do this. Are all the links coming from the same C Class IP? Are several links coming from the same site? There are endless possibilities and I'd need to see the two sites in question to hazard a proper guess.
Hi Griz
I was in the process of a link exchange with someone. When he looked at my links, he rejected them. His reasoning was that the page had javascript on it. He said that links with Java Script code are useless from point of view of search engines.
Is this true? If so, doesn't statcounter and G's analytics run a javascript?
Lane
Lane,
Unfortunately the Google Bot doesn't read Java Script. For a link to be of any use you need to use text/html.
Hey Griz,
I've been reading your posts posts for over a month now ,went back and read all the previous ones, And I've got to say the more I read the more confused I feel. I'm just so overwhelmed with all the information I don't know where to begin. I guess after someone has been doing this as long as you it's like second nature. My biggest problem is trying to pick a niche. Like you talk about your oil filter site ,,I can't for the life of me figure out how one could ever monetize such a site ,Hell there's an Auto Zone on every corner ,who looks for oil filters on the internet. Just have so many questions I don't know where to start ,,I wish I could afford to come spend a month with you just to watch. and as for writing articles ,I'm not an authority on anything ,,how to does one go about getting proficient on something they know little about.I've started 6 blogs on different things then I get so caught up I can't think of anything to write in any of them. maybe I'm not cut out for this ,,I guess that's why the ones that do this don't worry so much about giving out information to the ones that don't , because you know most of us never will.One more thing and I'll quit with this post, you talk about getting smart priced with Google ad sense, Does this happen when people click on ads then don't buy?No name ,,Didn't want everyone knowing how stupid I'm feeling about the whole thing right now.
You may have covered these in earlier posts that I can't find.
1. I know there are a few things to do to set up a Blogger blog. What specific steps do you do to a new blogger blog when you first set it up.
2. Adsense on blogger. Do you put your code into the blogger template for each post or just for the main page. One at top and one on the side?
3. Anything else when setting up a blogger blog?
Thanks, Paul
Grizz,
I sent you an email yesterday regarding the details of my earlier post. Thanks.
KF
Paul,
That site that is ranking #1 does not have the exact keyword in it's url. In fact it just as part of 3 word long keyword. Also it is not an authority site.
Grizzly,
Thanks for the FAST reply...
Does that mean that any and all links on a page that has Java Script on it are not recognized?
Doesn't statcounter use Java Script? Does that mean that any link exchanged on a page with statcounter are meaningless?
Lane
@KF
Well then, as Grizz says, one should look at the site itself in order to be able to precisely pinpoint the issues.
Anonymous,
Never fear leaving your name - you won't be ridiculed here. If you don't know something it just means you don't know something - it has nothing to do with being stupid. I'm a moron when it comes to code and tech issues but I ain't stupid. lol.
It may help to know that EVERYONE's biggest issue is finding niches. This is the one area that you won't get help in as no one (including me) is going to give up a winning keyword. Profitable keywords make money and if I told people the ones I have found I would have several thousand new competitors out to topple me. I hope you understand.
If you can read then you can be an authority. When you decide on a niche simply read everything available on all the top ranked sites in that niche. Then put all of their info onto your site in your own words.
Smart pricing is confusing. In simple terms think of it like this. If your traffic doesn't convert well for the advertiser then you will be smart priced. If your traffic is looking for red widgets and your ads are for red widgets then they are most likely to convert well. Who is specifically looking for red widgets? Search traffic is - and G will know they are because they typed "red Widgets" in the search box.
Who isn't looking for red widgets? Social traffic. They find your site from Digg or stumbleupon on are referred to you on another blog. If they click your ad out of curiosity they are not likely to convert and G knows they weren't looking for red widgets. They are tire kickers and G wont charge the advertiser full rate for their clicks. You get smart priced.
Targeted traffic clicking targeted ads means full payout. Un-targeted traffic clicking ads means smart pricing - you will make pennies a click. This is why adsense should only be used on blogs that provide targeted SEARCH ENGINE traffic only. Nothing else.
Paul,
I cover the basics of setting up and using Blogger in the sidebar. Check out the series of "Make Money Blogging Lessons"
Keep in mind that they are now outdated (2 years old) and I really have to update them. The basic blogger setup steps are still valid but many of the strategies I mention aren't. If you just want to know how I build a site and SEO it then the lessons are fine.
KF,
Sorry - I'll have to hunt it down. Let's see - 212 emails yesterday, another 136 this morning plus the 1889 previous emails not yet touched...
Man - I don't know about other bloggers but my emails are a nightmare. No excuses though - I just can't get to them all.
What was the subject line - that will help finding it.
Lane,
A page can have all the Java Script you want on it - just not the links if you want them followed by G. The bot reads html and will follow any html link. If it sees a java script link like statcounter it will not follow the link back to statcounter. Meaning - statcounter doesn't get credit for the link. If you link to other sites using javascript then they won't get credit either. Just use hypertext links for linking to others who you do want to get credit from G. You can keep the javascript for everyone that you don't want to send credit to or use the no-follow tag if using a html link.
Grizz,
The subject line of the email is "SERPs and Backlinks question???" Thanks.
KF
Griz, what are your comments on the blogger trick that lets you hide adsense from social traffic.
Any downsides to this? I'm not comfortable playing with my adsense code, it might cause more harm than help.
Hi Grizz,
I had a question. I remember you saying not to have too many Adsense blogs on one accouunt or it would be a red flag to Google, but when you're building sites for a link farm, do you also only put 2-3 sites per sign in name, or is that a case where you can build 10 sites from one profile? If not, how do you keep track of all your link farm blogs with that many different names/profiles?
By the way, thanks for the great info. It's not much, but I've gone from nothing to $35 a month, and that's with minimal sites and very little time to keep working on them.
BooBoo,
In principle G shouldn't have a problem with anything that provides better conversions for their advertisers. They do not allow tampering with their code but these scripts don't do that - at least in my understanding. Perhaps a few of the code monkeys around here can illuminate us as to how the script actually works.
I haven't gone that route (blocking non-search visitors) as I have noticed that only certain types of social traffic has an adverse effect on my CPC. Social Networks and forum traffic is bad. Direct traffic and some referral traffic does fine. The latter provides about 20% of my revenue and I am reluctant to block them.
Big Alaska,
4-5 Blogs per account (using Adsense or not) on Blogger and with Google accounts. I use excel spreadsheets to track all my sites. (Yes - It can become a monster keeping track of everything)
Griz,
Thanks again for the reply regarding links and Java Script. I have one additional question just to clarify...
If I have an HTML link to another site on a page, AND on the same page I have Java Script (i.e. statcounter), willl the HTML link be ignored or consider as legitimate by G bot?
Lane
Hi Griz, I just come across your blog - it is filled with so much FREE information that I had to pay at other sites to know. Keep up the good work!
Lane,
Having Java Script on a page doesn't mean G will ignore the whole page - just the Java Script. The bot will always read text/html on any page even if it is sandwiched in between Java Script.
So yes - the bot will read your html even if there is Java Script on the same page.
Hey Griz,
Are you still planning on releasing an ebook covering your MMO methods? The blog is great, a condensed summary would be valuable also. You can probably name your price, maybe JV with the Stompernet crew...
Thanks again,
Florida Phil
Phil,
"You can probably name your price"...
Well in that case - $1,000,000 - 1 copy only! lol.
The book is in barely decipherable dribble scattered amongst my hard drive - started it, then re-started it, then tossed it, then re-re-started it and on it goes. I'm going to have to move to an island in the middle of nowhere to get some peace and quiet to finish it - wait I am on an island in the middle of nowhere! Scratch that - maybe I need to sit in a coffee shop in the middle of Times Square to get the damn thing finished. :-)
Nothing against Andy and crew but if I JV'd I would probably let my readers in on it instead - let them make some coin as they have supported me all along.
I will let you all know when the epic is finished. War and Peace will seem like a short story in comparison!
Btw - Thanks for reminding me of yet "one more thing" I have not got done!!
:-)
I love your blog. It's so helpful! I have a question:
Is it better to have an in-post link to your site/blog, or a sidebar one?
Thanks!
Grizz,
I have site that has a homepage (general info on the niche) and 20 other internal pages each targeting a long tail keyword. Google is ranking my top level url for 19 of out the 20 of these keywords. I am either on page 1 or page 2 for all of these 20 keywords.
Now I would like to start building more anchored links to move up the SERPs for each of those keywords. So my question is should I point all these new links that I will build to the top level url (since Google is ranking that page) or should I point them to the internal pages (which might be ranking anywhere from page 3-10 of Google) to start moving those up? It seems that my top level url is ranking pretty strong for all these keywords because on the bottom of the homepage I have a link to each of these 20 internal pages with a brief one line summary for each. Is this reason why the hompage is ranking so strong and not the internal pages for those keywords? Typically when I submit a article to ezinearticles I will point one link to the homepage and the other link to the internal page. I would really appreciate your feedback on this.
KF
Thanks Grizz - you're the man!
One of your creations (me) has reached $10/day. rofl pathetic I know but it's a start!
That other farm blog that I salvaged, it has 0.10-0.60 crappy CPC but the CTR is crazy high. (15%-20%)
My goal for this year, $50/day before 2010. And to quit smoking.(or lessen it lol)
BooBoo
"I'm going to have to move to an island in the middle of nowhere to get some peace and quiet to finish it - wait I am on an island in the middle of nowhere! Scratch that - maybe I need to sit in a coffee shop in the middle of Times Square to get the damn thing finished. :-)"
Now thats funny!!
Griz, why don't you hire someone(for a % of the action) to write it for you. Just gather all the info from the blog plus a few of "your secrets" harness it into a coherent and logical format a viola...E-BOOK. You just have to edit and approve it. Easy Coin .
ps. I am trying to figure out a way to make the above trick a lot better. I bet there is a way to associate the "." with an anchored keyword.
Griz, delete this post if it is out of line.
BK
Hi Griz,
So how do you recommend linking from your support sites to your money site?
Link from a single post or page to you money site then have other pages on your support site link to that page(building up the authority/internal PR of the support page that links out).
Thanks,
D
KBlogs,
In-post links (contextual links) are the best assuming the post is relevant to your site or post being linked to. Sidebar links are fine but not usually as relevant as the blog may not be as relevant to your blog as a post would be. If it is great - if not then the link just won't carry as much clout but still good.
KF,
Be sure to link all your internal pages to the home page and then vary your links between both the internal pages and the homepage for all the relevant keywords. If the home page is ranking better it is just a sign that it has better links than the internal pages. This is fine but you may want to work on the internal pages a bit more.
In general for every link your homepage gets try and send two or three to the internal pages. Basically the more pages you can get on page 1 of the serp's the more traffic you will potentially get.
BooBoo,
If you are seeing 10 cent to 60 cent clicks on the same channel this is usually a sign that your traffic isn't as targeted as you want. The targeted traffic is paying you the top CPC - the untargeted traffic is causing the 10 cent clicks. (15-20% ctr is very good so just concentrate on getting more targeted traffic - meaning get better serp ranking for the targeted keywords.)
BK,
I have thought of the Ghost Writer idea but am reluctant simply because the book would sound generic - ie. I make no claims to being a writer but my style would be missing and people would probably notice - perhaps making them wonder if the book really represented my ideas or if it was just a retread of the status quo. Yes - I'm over-analyzing this. lol.
As for hiding links in a punctuation mark or period - be careful as G doesn't like that much.
Toby,
Good question and one I can't get into here. When I get another blog set up to discuss the fine art of "farming" I will let everyone know.
Sorry to be evasive but this is a subject that can't be discussed openly.
Maybe do this Griz,
Create a visual(like a flowchart) of "how a really good farmer enjoys bumper crop" and host it on photobucket. Put a link to it for 1 day on this site. Aspiring Farmers like us can download it and learn how to seed, plant, harvest and someday enjoy sizable yields like yours.
I am actually making a flowchart myself of how mine would look. The problem is...it has noob poop all over it and is hard to read:)
I opened my first blog last week just to get started. There are 3 post and my main keyword density is about 4%. I created backlinks from Digg and several do follow comments on different sites. I submitted an article to Goarticles with anchored links. I created a lens in same niche that links to the blog and I did the Vic trick (the ant thing). Damn, after several days I'm still not indexed. What else can I do?
BK,
A good trick to get G index you faster:
1. Submit your post to digg (G bot is there all the time looking for fresh content and links)
2. Use pingomatic.com or pingler.com to ping the digg page. Ping it once! Don't overdo it or services will ban your url.
That's it, your post should get indexed within a few hours, sometimes it might take up to 12-24h. Don't forget to link back to your index from the post either in the article itself or just the title. It helps the bot spider your whole blog.
Hope this helps, take care.
Ion
Unlike BK, I have no problem getting intialaly indexed by google within a week, but im frustrated with the ranking for my keyword. I'm nowhere to be found when seraching without quotes. With quotes i was on the 6th page after 2 weeks, and another week on page 4. Then yesterday, disappeared completely. I havent put up adsense or any affialiate links that would warrant sandboxing me, so im not sure what happened.
I'd normally think it's 2 early, but yet you can get a number one ranking in less than a month. What do you think happened?
Hey griz, search your email for "Grizzly Man - booboo"
Thought you might enjoy it, if you haven't already seen it.
"I'd normally think it's 2 early, but yet you can get a number one ranking in less than a month. What do you think happened?"
Who said that? It depends on the niche and competition. Study the top sites for your keywords to realize how much work is going to be done in order to rank nr 1.
Cheers.
Mike D,
Ion is right. One of the problems I have in giving advice is that I don't know your niche or how old your site is.
In general new sites in semi to very competitive niches (and all sites in the splog niches) are put through the Google dance. You will pop in and out of the serp's for a while until G decides on a spot for you. If the site is deemed legit it will finally settle down after a few weeks but not usually as high in the serp's as it did when you first noticed its rank. This is all normal. One of the ways to speed up the dance and get higher position is to get as many authority links as you can. I know this may not be easy but it has a huge effect on your initial serp rankings.
@BK. Try Ion's suggestion - should work.
Ion - thanks for fielding a few - much appreciated!
Grizz,
No problem man, we all own you a lot for the information that you are continuously sharing. Answering some comments and helping others who just start out is the least we can do. After all, I have to admit that 99% of all my SEO and making money online with adsense knowledge was found on this "ugly blog" ;)
Cheers!
Hi Grizz,
I have really been enjoying the SEO/search posts - very straight forward and easy to understand. I have a quick question: Can a website that is constantly updated, has an rss feed, a keyworded URL, a keyworded TITLE, a keyworded H1, and keywords scattered throughout the text make as much money as a blog? Can they be indexed as quickly and as highly? Thanks for any insight you can give.
Thanks,
Paula
(I emailed the same question, but that was before I noticed the update about posting in the comment section, sorry for doing both!)
Thanks for your quick responses Griz and Ion.
I'm working on getting key word anchored back links, but i've also heard that getting too many of these too soon will seem unnatural to G and could get me sandboxed.
I'm not using any link services to get a ton of links. Just throwing up some articles everywhere on my own. Am I safe, or should I limit the amount of keyword anchor links for the same keyword early on?
Griz,
I've been a long-time reader of your blog. Bless your heart for sharing your IM knowledge. You've given so many people who are legitimately trying to make money online, hope.
With that said, it BREAKS my heart to SHATTER your DREAM of being able to make money online but according to this newsweek article, it's Time To Hang Up The Pajamas, because even with 1.5 million visitors a month, you aren't going to make more than $1,039.81.
Well, at least you gave it the old college try, as they say, huh? ;-)
Hi Griz,
I've been reading your blog for a few months now, and come to realise it's virtually the only blog I can really trust to give real advice with every post - thanks!
I had quick look at the affiliate marketing school, but it seems like it's quite dead and there is barely any info on the site, is it still something you'd recommend?
Thanks
Griz did I miss the SEO Elite boat? It says now there is a monthly $47 charge? Please let me know if I am reading this right?
Hi Griz, a million thanks to you! If not because of your blog I will still be lost like the others who look for ways to make money online. Following the so call A-Lists people. Your post about SEO, Blog and Adsense really enlighten me. What really open my mind is your methodology of "BEING UGLY TO MAKE MONEY". You are a true friend to all of us here! Really appreciate it!
Hi Griz, you mentioned you are earning good adsense income just from this reactolite blog alone. I saw that your adsense ads are all about making money online. Won't that be smart-priced since your blog doesn't have any relevant content on MMO? And if so, won't it bring down the entire earnings on your adsense account? (could it be you have another adsense account for dumping on sites like these?)
Queenie,
Those aren't Adsense ads - they just look like Adsense ads. (It's the new click bank program that sets up your CB affiliate ads to mimic Adsense. Just testing it out.)
Hi Grizzly
I found your site... or one of them to begin with and others along the way via Mikael Riecks blog www.antphilosophy.com and i would like to scream:
THANK YOU!
Both to you, and to Mikael for pointing me here.
I have been reading learning and applying instead of commenting, i thought that would make me more money in the long run.
Today i just have to comment after reading some of this post because this is worth all the time i am spending trying to build up some income online.
"Jez you wondered if I could rank well for a non-bloggy niche like "reactolite spectacles".
Here you go... Reactolite Spectacles
And you can find it ranked number 1 with double indexing in Google."
I am still smiling... way to go answering a question like that... Watch the proof, sh.. up, and get working..
I like your style...
Thank you for making my day/week!
And expect a backlink one of the first days of the week from my danish make money blog.
Please excuse the need looks, i dont make all my sites look ugly...
Janno,
You're welcome and thanks. I seem to be getting a number of Danish readers thanks to Mikael - a really nice fellow - and I'm glad you all find this useful.
(Ugly only works for Adsense... lol)
All the best.
Ugly for adsense is as true as can be, i have a site i redesigned to be ugly, and my ctr is thru the roof...
Not much traffic yet as i am still climbing up the serp ladder with it, but it is rarely below 10% ctr thanks to your ugly theory... today 25%ctr
No need to say i love your advice...
I will be back often.
Hi, Griz!
I'm not sure if you still check these comments, but I'm a bit confused about getting good backlinks. I've just started with the blogs and all that, so I don't have any warm place to shower the links from. You mentioned the article directories, but is it enough for someone without any high PR site just to submit articles there to get good links? So is the proportion here "10%/90%" in relation to content/backlinks is still true for today? How should I understand the words 'content is the king' since the 'king' gets only 10% of the pie?! And how many posts approximately should I have in my blog/s to satisfy the 'G'?
Thank you for your valuable info. You opened my eyes; it is the first source of info for real and practical making money online. Thanks, Griz!
Not sure if this was posted before but I googled "ants scratch their asses" from griz's post. Google suggested I might have got the spelling wrong and might I have instead wanted "do ants scratch there[sic] asses" As in vic's original post... funny as shit
Wow I have the same questions as DCD above here lol if you answered those I'd be grateful. I've been on this site 3 days and have only scratched the surface. Just reading the comments takes hours sometimes.
The saddest part about blogging is that, no matter how good your content is, its always the backlinks that matter. I guess i will have to spend a month or two creating blogs, where i will be able to get backlinks :)
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