How to Get Useful Backlinks
What do you and spammers have in common? You both want backlinks - that's what. The difference between you and them is that you play by the rules and they don't. The other difference is that they probably have more backlinks than you and this is because they, more than you, understand the importance of backlinks. If you knew you'd probably be spamming too.
Backlinks drive the Google machine - the search engine. Backlinks create PR and PR (pagerank) determines (among other factors) the position of pages listed in Google's index. The search engine results pages (SERP's) provide a means to make money online. Top ranking on any highly searched term can mean a lot of free traffic to your site. Traffic can be converted to money - the more traffic the more money made. Where there is money to be made there is incentive to do whatever it takes to get it. People kill for money so it's hardly surprising that good honest people will cheat to get their hands on it.
With the advent of Adsense Google made available a means for people the world over to make money online - is there an easier way to make money online? Nope.
Traffic and Adsense may not be the most lucrative way to earn a living on the internet but it is the easiest and it can be profitable.
I hate talking about Backlinks. Every successful marketer online has a system for obtaining backlinks - they may be different systems - but one thing they all have in common is that they don't like talking about backlinks. There are two reasons for this;
This is the piece of the money making puzzle you need most of all in order to succeed and telling others how you do it may endanger your own livelihood. As much as I like helping people I don't want to do it at my own expense. Human nature I think. If everyone does what I do it may not work anymore.
The other reason is that the wrong eyes may see the post and report your activities to the wrong people (G) and poof - it's all gone.
When you make a good buck online you don't want it all wiped out in an instant - think of the irony, you were trying to help others and end up with nothing.
In that light I am not going to tell you what I do - I'm going to tell you what my friend "Kodiak" does.
First a quick primer about backlinks.
There are crappy backlinks, better backlinks and then there are perfect backlinks.
(Note; Even crappy backlinks are better than no backlinks - at worst Google ignores them and at best you get a little juice.)
You can rate a backlink as follows;
Can everyone get the same link? - think do-follow - think crappy.
Is the link coming from a high PR site but not relevant to your site - better but not great.
Is the link coming from a relevant site with low PR - better still even kinda great but not really great.
Is the link coming from a relevant High PR site contained in the content of an article relevant to the page on your site that it is linked to - OK this is better than great - this is the perfect backlink.
My friend Vic on Blogger Unleashed has mentioned a fondness for ranking well for the term (keyword) "make money online". Over the last few posts I have included a few links to Vic's blog. In one link I used the term "make money online", in another link I used the term "making money online" and today I will use the term "How to make money online with Adsense" and I am linking to his post dealing with Adsense - not his home page which isn't relevant to Adsense. If you haven't caught on I am giving Vic the perfect links for his site. I have a PR5. I have huge keyword authority for all the make money online terms and when a site like mine votes for another site using the terms I have authority for I pass on a great deal of link juice.
While I am at it I want to send a link out to RT on "Untwisted Vortex" who has been busy trying out a few experiments with certain keywords like How to Get Screaming Traffic. He has a great sense of humor and I would love to give him a hand in the serp rankings - maybe I just did.
When I started this blog I didn't have a friend with a high PR relevant site to help me so I had to do it the hard way. Before I begin, you can all help each other out immensly by using appropriate anchor text when you link to each other. Stop using the person's name in the link - stop using the blog name - start using the keyword that best describes the post you are linking to. Don't just link to their homepage - give them links to their inner pages, this is known as deep linking. This will get all of their pages PR - not just the home page. It would help of course if every blogger had a little blurb on their page somewhere that listed the top 5 terms they would like to be ranked for as some sites are just hard to figure out. Hmmm maybe we can start something like that...
PR vs Keyword Authority
Having high pagerank doesn't mean you have a lot of keyword authority. This confuses a lot of people.
If 5 PR8 sites link to your blog about "Dogs" then you will likely gain a PR6 from these links. This doesn't mean you have keyword authority for "Dogs". If the sites linked to you using your name for instance and not the term "dogs" then you will have a PR6 blog with keyword authority for your name. If they linked to you using the term "Dogs" then you will have authority for Dogs. This is assuming that the PR8 sites are dog related and have authority for the term. If they aren't related then you still don't have authority for the term. A lot of Bloggers ask me why they aren't ranking well for their keywords even though they have a PR3 or PR4 blog. This is why - you have PR but no authority for any relevant terms to your site.
This is sooooooooooooooooo important when collecting backlinks.
Most people waste so much time getting tons of backlinks from do-follow, articles, forum signatures etc and don't use their keywords in the anchor text. You use your name or blog name in 90% of the links - don't you - fess up. Congrats. You have a ton of authority for your name and none for your niche keywords. A lot of work for nothing friends.
Just to muddy the waters even more let me mention why do-follow is crap. Even if you stick a comment on a do-follow blog that has high PR and the blog and post is directly related to you and you have proper anchor text the link is just one of 50 or 100 links being handed out - it is diluted so bad as to be mostly worthless. For the mathematically endowed you can Google "pagerank" and read how the formula works. For those of you who are mathematically challenged like me I will put it in layman's terms. The less links a site gives out the more juice each link contains. The more links a site gives out the less juice each link contains. (This is a contentious issue but my own findings seem to bare this out.) I have reduced the number of site wide links on my blog in order to increase my juice. I removed my blogroll for this reason and not because I don't want to link to other sites. I think I can provide better juice to my friends by linking to them in my posts every so often rather than using a static link in the sidebar. Rather than just using their blog name I can use relevant anchor text instead. (I'm not suggesting you drop your blogrolls too but there are better ways to link to your friends.)
Ideally you want a link from a relevant high PR site that doesn't give out many links. Better yet you want the link contained in a relevant article using keyword relevant anchor text. Best of all you want the link pointing to a relevant page on your site and this doesn't always mean the homepage. Think of my link to Vic above.
I have probably confused you with all this but I had too in order to explain how my "friend" Kodiak goes about collecting links.
When he started out he used articles. He wrote a whole bunch under different names and included proper anchor text pointing back to his site. An article dealing with dog collars would have the link pointing to his page on dog collars - not his homepage which deals with dogs in general. He would post on a topic and then spin the article so that it was sufficiently different and then submit it to article submission sites. He did this for every page on his blog. Every article had a different keyword. Every page in his blog focused on a different keyword but all related to his main keyword. This was slow going but eventually enough of his articles got posted on other sites and a few backlinks trickled in. Few though they were at least they came from relevant sites and they contained keyword rich anchor text. None of the sites had good PR. (Note: High PR sites don't post articles from article directories)
Nevertheless he gained a PR2 for his efforts which really wasn't very good. It wasn't very good because he had a site that was a PR3 and it didn't have a single backlink to it. The PR3 site was not monetized, had 118 pages and was three years old. It didn't have any outgoing links on it either. This told Kodiak something important. You will get a PR3 just for having enough content and /or it's age and/or whether or not it's monetized and/or whether it links out. In time he came to realize that monetization had an effect on a site's serp ranking more than it had an effect on it's PR. Two sites with the same PR and keyword authority will be ranked in accordance with monetization - the un-monetized will rank higher in most instances.
In time he also learned that PR wasn't effected by how many links your site had on it. It did have an effect on the strength of the juice you possessed though. As he built up more and more sites he experimented. He used his PR3 sites to send link juice to new sites. One PR3 site gave out tons of links to several sites. The other PR3 site gave out only a handful of links. The sites linked to from the second PR3 site had an instant jump in the serp pages for their keywords. The sites linked to by the first PR3 site didn't move much at all.
In the end Kodiak came to realize that age and content were enough to get a PR3 on their own - no backlinks needed.
Having wasted a great deal of time getting a lousy PR2 he wondered just how many crappy links it would take to get a high PR which made him wonder just how many good links it would take to get a high PR. To find out he went out and bought them.
Yup.
There are any number of sites set up to facilitate the purchase of pagerank - Google it as I won't be linking to any of them here. There is certainly a well known forum with the initials DP. Much later it became a joke when bloggers agreed to write "advertising reviews" on their high PR blogs for money. The bloggers thought they were getting paid for advertising and never questioned why they weren't allowed to put a no-follow on the links. Spammers just about had a coronary as this was just too easy. Not only could you get a high PR relevant site to use your link but you could have the proper anchor text used as well. In the end the spam sites thrived and the bloggers lost all their pagerank. The irony is that they blamed Google for their loss and not the site that conned them all into selling their PR. BTW the spam sites lost their PR too when the sites linking to them lost theirs - they didn't lose their keyword authority though and that was what they were after in the first place. They still rank well for their keywords without any PR. I digress...
It turns out that you can get a PR5 with relatively few backlinks. In fact a handful of PR6 - PR8 links will do it. The trouble is that a new blog that suddenly develops several high PR links right out of the gate is a bit suspicious looking and a smart operator will gather up lots of crappy links first and then add the good ones slowly one at a time.
Kodiak has approached other site owners and offered money for an optimized link to his sites. In some niches this is easy as the other owners haven't a clue and think he is advertising. Some niches are on the ball and won't sell you a link for the same keywords they are chasing and why would they. In these cases he sought out related sites who would give him a link. His dog site got high PR links from "Pet" sites and "dog grooming" sites and "dog food" sites and you get the picture. They weren't perfect links but they were good enough to get him a PR5 pretty damn quick. His keyword authority didn't rise as fast as his PR but it still moved him up the serps. Eventually to the top spot in a very competitive niche and he did it with less than 30 really good links. It cost him about $2000 but he makes that back on a good day now.
Who should consider doing this?
Only, and I repeat, only those of you who know how to sell and have both a product and a niche with sufficient people searching for what you are selling. If you spend this kind of money just to get your personal blog to the top of the serps for a lousy niche then you will be sorry. I will talk about finding niches in an upcoming post.
Option 2
Join a blog network. There are several networks available and again I won't be linking to them in this article but you might find a link if you follow the link in the first paragraph. Long time readers might recognize one of these networks that Kodiak used to get his "make money online" blog a PR5 and huge keyword authority for most of the make money keywords. The network in questioned got hammered in the last pagerank update and Kodiak recommended people not join until new sites were added with high PR. As it happens 20 fresh PR4 and a few PR5 sites were just added and it might be worth looking at now.
What is a blog network? It's a group of blogs that are co-authored by everyone who joins. The network mentioned above has 148 blogs that you can post your own articles on complete with anchor text pointing back to your sites. Most of the blogs were reduced to PR0 - PR2 after the last update but are still effective at passing some juice because you are getting optimized links. Some of the blogs are better than others since some are niche related and others are not - general blogs with posts about everything.
Being smart.
Always look natural. If you were to join such a network you will be tempted to post a bunch of links on the high PR sites and ignore the rest. Is this how a blog would naturally gain links? Nope. A normal site will have lots of low PR links built up over time with a smattering of high PR sites - use the PR 0,1 and 2 sites more than the high PR sites.
Will a natural blog have all it's backlinks pointing just to it's home page and all using the exact same anchor text? Nope. If you were to collect links this way make sure to link to all the pages of your blog and use lots of different long tail keywords as anchor text - variety. This will help you rank for lots of terms instead of just your main term. This will get your secondary pages ranking as well as your home page which means a lot more traffic - a LOT more.
Will a natural blog suddenly get 30 links in one day - especially a new blog. Nope. Take your time - a couple of low PR sites a day - one link to the home page - one to the secondary page. Once or twice a week you use a high PR link - sometimes to the homepage sometimes to a secondary page. Patience - you will see your blog move up the serps as your "real" PR and keyword authority increases - you will know that it is working so don't get greedy - slow and easy.
Will a natural blog get 5 links from one post on another blog? Nope. Each time you use a network blog just use one link in your post. One post - one keyword.
One last thing - don't use duplicate content on the network. Write a real post (it can be short) and make sure it is relevant to the blog you are linking to - this includes using your keywords in the post title and other relevant long tails in the content. You want the link pointing at your real blog to come from a relevant post. PLR articles are fine but spin them first. (Change them around - a little re-writing to make them unique)
Don't put all your eggs in one basket folks. If you join a network use it for a few sites only. If Google slams them (the network sites) you don't want all your money sites affected.
Don't just gather links from the networks. Use do-follow and articles and all the other sites I have talked about previously (Squidoo, Yahoo Answers etc.) to collect links. These may not get you a high pagerank but they are natural links that will lend credibility to your site. You can also use automated trackback and social bookmarking software but remember these are not as effective at getting high PR but they do add up over time. Thousands and thousands of low PR links will give you some PR eventually. I suggest you see Vic's post BookMarking Demon Tips if you want more info on these types of programs.
Some Common Sense
I have made a point with this blog to show my readers how anyone can take a "free" blog and make money online without spending a dime. I have not lied - there are plenty of methods to obtain backlinks without buying them. I have talked about these methods on numerous occasions on this blog and they all work. The downside is they are labor intensive and they take a long time to create the results you are looking for. The upside is that they are completely legit and you will never have to fear the mighty G.
I have strayed from the "free" systems in this post for a reason. If you are really serious about making a living online then you need to see the big picture. If you are going to make money you will have to dominate a niche that allows you to make a good living and with few exceptions the money niches are dominated by professionals. While you are busy doing everything the right way they are busy doing things the business way. The real competition online doesn't bugger around with things like backlinks - they cut to the chase. They buy them. I have explained a few of the ways they do this and I will tell you the most effective way of all but the most expensive. I rank number 1 in my most profitable niche, I also rank number 2 and number 3 and now number 4 as well. How? I bought the 3 sites below me. I probably get 90% of all the traffic looking for my keywords and I wouldn't have spent the money if it wasn't worth it.
Am I telling you to do this. No. I am telling you this as a reality check. If you are just dabbling then use common sense - save your money and use legit methods until you find something that does earn you money. As you gain experience then look at the big picture and decide how far you want to go with your online business. If you are making a few hundred a month in position 12 on the serp's then it might be worth it to spend a hundred bucks a month to join a network and get yourself to the top position. If you are making a few thousand a month in 12th spot then it might make sense to spend a few thousand dollars buying high PR links from others. If you are making ten thousand dollars a month in 12th spot then it might make sense to buy out your competitors. Don't get ahead of yourself.
This post may not be of much use to those of you who are just starting out but it is worth knowing how things get done in the broad spectrum of things.
One thing you can all look at doing is buying expired domains that have existing PR. One of my friends is getting quite adept at this and you should pay Terry a visit at his "make money" blog called Make Money Hints. He's very approachable so pick his brain.
Buying Domains can be done fairly cheaply and has some immediate benefits. Aged domains aren't usually thrown in the sandbox by Google. (I was going to talk about this today but will save it for next time - the sandbox issue that is.) You can start out with good PR and spend your time gathering keyword authority instead of both. A thousand PR0 links with your keywords in the anchor text will give you authority - think social bookmarking. You might want to use an auto program for this. (See Vic)
Ok... Long enough.
On a side note I hate to admit this but I am now getting more email than I can possibly answer. I'm trying to get back to everyone but this may prove impossible. I will condense most of the commonly asked questions and deal with them en mass in some upcoming posts. I feel bad about this but I just don't have the time to do it any other way. Please accept my apologies if you have been waiting to hear back from me - I am truly sorry.
Next up... Niches
Griz
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
Backlinks - The Root of All Evil
Labels: How to Get Backlinks, SEO
Project Payday - A Legit Method to Make Money at Home
I have included Project Payday on my blog for all of my readers who write in asking if there are any legit online programs that they can use to make some quick money. Project Payday is not a get rich quick scheme - it is more like a work at home job. You don't need a blog or website as it involves getting paid to try out trial offers from online advertisers. There is work to this but you can realistically earn a couple of hundred dollars a day if you want to put in the effort.
I have written several posts about this and suggest you start with this one. Project Payday
Unfortunately Project Payday is only available to American and Canadian users at this time. Oh and it is free.
Note - After signing up take advantage of the Fast First Training link - you can learn how the IFW system works while making yourself a quick $50.00.
How to Contact Me
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Update - March 2009
Please note that I am getting more email than I can keep up with so if you need an answer fast please use the comments section. You will receive an answer by me or one of my readers in short order. Thanks. Griz
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47 comments:
Uhh...Uhh...Next time can you go in depth a little more?
I have a job you know. I got through a third of this and I will have to come back for the rest :)
Heh, "maybe I just did".
Yep, your post is on page 1 for "get screaming traffic", but the BloggingZoom post is #1.
Work... just be glad I edited it down a bit - you'd have been coming back all week. Lol
Damn your fast RT!
... the question is - where is your page ranking?
Another fine post Grizz!
Do you still recommend "Better Than Backlinks" and Backlink Solutions?
I have the extra funds to use both these services but I wanted to get your "updated" opinion on both.
Grizz wow just strong solid advice. And as I mentioned even using BMD or any automated soft you still need to get some solid links to give the site authority.
Grizz I think folks sometimes think we make money doing this and only just woke upo a few days ago and just bam instant results the facts are there is no such thing as a magic bullet but with repetition and solid fundamentals you always attain the same results and I think that is the strongest thing an online business provides in the real world there is no such thing as a sure shot.
BTW I just posted today and I really feel like mmm adding about another 500 words after reading your post. LMAO
Hey Grizz before I forget yup welcome to the 400 emails a day thing LMAO.
Hi Jimmy,
The first one - No, not enough benefit for the money over the long term. It's cheaper to just buy links when you need them.
The second one is very useful and has just added 20 new blogs. PR4's mostly.
BTW - the blog networks are expired domains that have been bought because of their existing domain. Those of you buying domains should keep this in mind. You can build them up and start your own little network or sell them to other networks.
That last comment should have said
... the blog networks are expired domains that have been bought because of their existing pagerank.
Vic.
Nice to see you up and around! Hope your feeling better. I was just reading your latest post - I knew you were back cuz I heard the swearing all the way up to Canada.
I gotta check your ranking for Dumb F*ck again - that post MUST have moved you up in the serps!
Really great to have you back Vic!
The thing is you probably manage to answer all of your emails and I don't know how you do it?
Now I'm going back to your site to see if you added another 500 words...
Oops! Grizz I forgot to ask you if new sites can sign up for backlink solutions?
My page isn't ranking at all yet that I can see. That's okay, I just saw over 5 pages linking to it :-)
Great post!
Question:
If a link has nofollow(no PR juice), does it still pass SERP juice for the keyword?
Thanks fro the post :D
Jimmy - you can use BS for any site.
RT - Are you sandboxed? With the links you have you should be showing on the index - a bit of a puzzle here.
Steve - if Google is to be believed they ignore the link - no PR and no keyword authority. I am not entirely sure if this is the case with authority though - just a hunch that I can't prove. The safe bet would be to assume they don't.
Great post Griz,
I wonder whether it be worth to optimize my blog for a few keywords (I'm thinking freelancing or writing) and then monetize later down the track. I wonder how possible this would be since I always just focused on writing blog content rather than building backlinks. Except of course the dumb way by spending hours leaving comments on other blogs.
Now I see how much time I have wasted really instead of focusing on doing the right thing upfront. It's enough to make me want to cry. Bah...bah...
Monika http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog
Damn Griz. What a post.
I'm not even going to say anything except thank you. This is really a huge help.
I've been trying to get people to link to my pages with good anchor text, not just "elite by design". I learned about doing that a couple days ago so I'm glad you are reinforcing it.
I am trying to do the same myself and link to other people with anchor text that I think will help them.
Hopefully this post will get some good backlinks flowing.
Mr. Grizzly I must say that you, Vic and Courtney have brought life and hope for so many lost souls who were chasing John Chow's and John Cow's model of doing things ..Including me I would say ..
Keep up the good work you rock ! ! !
It is time well spent on your blog and value for money as they say ..
I've been wondering about the effect of the free blog reviews I've been writing on OpTempo. How do you think it affects both my ranking and the reviewee's ranking? I include at least 3 deep links in each review.
I imagine once I get toolbar PR the waiting list for a free review will get a lot longer.
yet another great post Grizz, Truly eye opening to this newbie. However,
I think this explains it a little more clearly (kidding).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:PageRank#PageRank_algorithm_including_damping_factor
Thanks for this free blog. In my discussions with other people, your advice could easily be sold and as other people have stated some people have spent 100's to 1000's not receive this type of advice. Needless to say, If you like beer and I could buy you one I would gladly send one your way.
Hi Griz,
In my ongoing quest to thank you for your help, I’ve nominated you for the Bloggies in four categories. Although that name seems like it would represent something wet and disgusting, it’s actually an award. ;-)
And way to blow my brains out with this post. I’m studying every word. Thanks for sharing this incredible info.
Monika - If I was you I would be targeting the "Freelance Writing" niche as I suspect that you could do quite well with it. Work the keyword into all your posts and use it as an anchor in your backlinking. It's never too late.
Brian - this is the biggest advantage of social networking and making friends. If everyone would start using proper anchor text we would all benefit in the serps.
Amit - Value for money hmmmm.... wait I didn't charge anything. Are you saying... lol.
Frank - Your reviews will certainly help the reviewee (sp?) with proper anchors and your site should be building up authority in the blog review index. As you said once you have a high PR showing the line will get quite long. (Too bad people don't realize the PR is already there in spite of the static toolbar) A lot of my readers should look at taking Frank up on his free reviews - he is quite good at it and very fair.
Thanks Dennis and be thankful I didn't include the math in the post! Lol. As for the beer it's the thought that counts and I appreciate it greatly.
A Bloggie huh - your right, sounds like something one would use on a toddler during diaper change. Lol
Any chance of a link - I could Google but that would be like work. Thanks for the nomination Carla - your sweatheart meter just keeps rising!
I rarely read long posts all the way thru...but i have to say, this one, i read twice over. this has to be one of the best written posts about backlinks i've ever read. i feel like i actually learned something. Great job. thanks for posting
Hi Griz,
I don't know if I'm in the sandbox, but I intend to find out. I get 200-300 visitors a day, 90 percent Google, so it doesn't seem likely.
I posted that last comment too soon. I now rank #1 for "how to get screaming traffic", #1 for "get screaming traffic", and #1 for "screaming traffic".
It doesn't get any better than that.
Thanks for the mention Grizz, that's one of my new make money babies and although it came with a PR0 tag, its a five year old domain that will improve fairly rapidly, I think and will almost definitely overtake anything else I've got that I've only had for a year or so.
Anyone is welcome to come over and ask away - I'll answer all comments as always (unless they're manufactured ones - you'll have to read my post on "Make Money Comments to figure out what I mean by that).
On a side note, I just noticed my green bar staring to fluctuate on some blogs - today you are showing PR4 and some of mine are going up and down (as you mentioned would happen someplace else, some of the new ones are going down).
It could be G are making up for the last change being late by bring this next one forward, so hang on to your hats everyone, it might be a rough ride!
...and a topic for another brace of blog posts I wouldn't wonder...
Terry
BloggerNoob - Thanks for the kind words and sorry for the epic - it looks like my system for getting people to click my ads in order to escape my long posts isn't working. Damn.
RT and Terry - It looks like Google started another round of pagerank pdates last yesterday which would help to explain the index problems with RT. The new pdates started rolling out last night and it looks like you got fixed up nicely RT.
Terry what has happened to your new domains (did the PR stay with the new domains?) It looks like I dropped a point here but I have checked my money sites and I am looking at a couple of PR7 if the ranking doesn't change. A nice way to start the new day indeed.
Anyone else notice a PR shift today?
Whoah! PR strange!
Grizz, a couple of my new PR6's plummeted to PR0 and when I checked in SEO Elite, all the backlinks have disappeared. Now this is strange in that I'm sure for one of those domains the originating linking sites haven't simply removed their links as they were embedded deeply within university articles that were several years old (and lots of them) - nobody bothers about articles that old at universities, surely!
So maybe Google has chosen to ignore those backlinks with the change in site title for that domain? I wonder.
My Make Money Hints site went from a grey bar to a PR0, so at least Google have recognised its existence, meaning I now have the chance to really work it over the coming months into something good.
All of the other new domains have dropped a single notch and I can still see all their backlinks, which is equally strange.
Some of my older sites have gone up a notch and others stayed the same.
Not surprisingly my crappy domain that I used to squeeze some PR6 reviews from PPP dropped top PR0 too! Blast - it happened sooner than I would have liked for obvious reasons, although I still made $300 profit from it - so not a bad buy, eh? LMAO!!!
Looks like we've all got another 3 months to get working on our new domains...
Terry
Thanks Terry, I did a little digging and it looks like the two sites I had linking to this blog got reduced to PR0 as well - one was PR6 and the other was a PR7.
I can't say I'm surprised as the owners have been getting greedy selling links to all sorts of un-related sites. I'm fortunate to have lost only a point and this only reinforces why you should never stick all your eggs in one basket - the day isn't over yet though...
Hi Grizz I just dropped from a PR3 to a PR1. I have more links this round than last so I don't understand why this would happen. Help. I am not gaming them so why would I be penalized.
Adam
Adam - if Google reduced the PR of some high ranking sites linking to your site then your PR will drop as well. It's not something you have done, rather it's what the linking sites have done. You probably know who your best links are - go see what happened to their PR and you will find your answer.
I'd like to introduce myself.
Mike Pedersen of MikePedersenGolf.com blog. You've probably seen me comment on both Vic's and Court's blog, and I am working with Court right now.
Wow! What a post Griz! Have you heard about a Jonathan Leger and his 3-way linking program? I have been told by peers he's a good guy and very smart search programmer.
Would love your opinion.
Here is his page:
www.3waylinks.net
Hi Mike - No need to introduce yourself as I have been to your blog frequently. I am a golf fanatic and have toyed with the idea of a Golf blog of my own. Have meant to pick your brains on the niche but haven't had time to do it yet - you have been warned though. Lol
I am familiar with Jonathan Ledger but don't know him. I too have heard decent reviews of him and 3waylinks but haven't used it myself. Should you or anyone else try it I would be interested in hearing the results. Sorry that I can't be of more help but perhaps one of my readers can give us some insights into it.
Thanks for dropping in Mike and nice to officially meet you.
Thanks for the QUICK response Grizz! Golf is a horrible niche! Truely. That's why I'm putting my 7 years of bad decisions (golf niches) to good use by starting niches that Vic and Court have mentioned.
Golfers don't click ads or by too many products online. Most of them are 60 plus years old and still don't trust the internet...LOL
I would love to hear about this 3 Way linking though. Just wouldn't want to do anything that got me or my adsense banned.
Great Great Post. I learned alot and I hope I can learn how to put it into practice.
Hey Grizz shoot you only drooped a point with Bu.bulicio.us I got bitch slapped and had a corkscrew shoved up my %*& the whole site was taken to PR0 LMAO.
'Just when I thought I was out, Grizz pulls me back in...'
A long, yet DAMN fascinating post, me sitting in front of my monitor bleary-eyed when I should already be in bed (just ask my girlfriend), followed by me skimming it again the next day. Yep, Grizzly just posted again...
Seriously though, as a fellow Canadian wanting to thank you for this free of charge enlightenment (at least for now, anyway, lol), would it have been a Sleeman's, a Rickards, or something from the 'Big Boy breweries'?
Thanks again and 'Cheers'.
Hi Griz
I will start with a hardy thank you for taking the time to share this most informative post with us here today.This is by far the best article I have seen on backlinks.
Thanks Griz
Steven
This is one hell of a pillar post (yes, it is) - a superlative composition that's worth more than any ebooks or other blog posts that tried to explain backlinks and such but never really delivers. You did it with great writing style. Simple, concise...and no BS. And plenty of hints - *wink, wink*
I'll be doing some damage control soon after reading this excellent post. I had just started a couple of niche blogs a few days back. The Blogger blog that went online first is showing more that 200 visitors in about two or three days. I did nothing except put in the content and some Adsense. Is that a good sign or do I need to wait a few more days to see how it goes?
Grizz, hats off to you!
hi Griz,
I really like the content of your blog.. keep on writing!
Grizz,
How is it that one can be #10 on "page one" on Google for a keyword that received over 2,000 searches per day and get only a few clicks per day?
I've always thought that page one for a keyword getting that many searches per day should bring more hits than this.
Keyword was found on wordtracker and wordze.
What gives?
Great long post! Good ideas.
WOW...what an insightful post about backlinks. I've read several blogs about the importance of them, how to get them, etc. but you described the strategy in such a way that it makes much more sense to me. Super blog, by the way :)
It all sounds like excellent advice - but confusing too , I didn't realize there was so much stuff to know I thought it was just about writing posts !
Thanks for the info. It was all very helpful.
Hi, Griz
Man, you have completely blown me away with this post. I am a retired golfer in Gold Canyon, Arizona, and recently set up a Golf Talking blog to try to make some money. My goal is to generate enough revenue to pay for cruises, vacations to see the grandkids, pay for golf etc.. The golf blog is my learning tool, and I will build other blogs when I have some idea of what the hell I'm doing. In the meantime, I will read everything you post about how to Make Money Online. Damn, I'm afraid I've just come out of retirement!
Don Rabbit,
A retired Golfer? Wait a sec... no one retires from golf! You must have meant you are retired and spend your time Golfing! That's better - as an avid Golfer myself I cringe at the thought of being a retired Golfer - I would have to be 110 and in a wheelchair before I stop whacking that little white ball around.
Just pulling your leg - I took a look at your blog - love the graphics and now wish I was teeing up. A quick suggestion, pull the adsense ads off for the time being until you have more content. (You are getting health insurance ads at the moment because of the post topic you picked)
Once you have enough "Golf Specific" posts the adsense bot will start displaying Golf related ads only. Get a dozen or so posts up and then ut the adsense back on.
Just a warning - Golf is a tough niche to make money in if selling products - you may do ok with adsense though. Golfers as a rule don't buy much online as they tend to be older and retired and don't trust the "internets".
The best way to approach your niche is to get readers active in discussions and build up a following. This will allow you to charge for advertising once you generate some traffic and readership.
The site looks good - just keep adding posts and work on getting backlinks.
You might want to contact Mike at
http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/
and strike up a conversation as he has been in the niche for a while now. He's a great guy who also happens to read my blog and I'm sure he would give you a hand (trade links as well). Drop in on him and tell him I sent you over.
Good luck Don.
Grizz, I posted in other post and forgot where. sorry. So I repeat the questions.
1. I see several commentators has lost blogger blogs here.
I want to create strong backlinks to site and backlinks to those backlinks and backlinks to those backlinks, you got the point.
But I don't know how to.
I searched your site but you mentioned one time this but not in your usual style LOL.
Would you please talk about how to do this and get into trouble and get sites banned.
2). You rightly emphasize about writing content using related keywords.
- how do you gather related keywords.
For example: make money online is the keyword you are targeting for your site. If you are writing about Getting backlinks, how do you go about gathering these related keywords.
If I type Getting backlinks either in Google keywords tool or Free WT or Keyword Elite , they return view keyword/keyword phrases.
Also Quintura throws few words.
I want to hear from you how you go about this. I know you want to put make money online in every post regardless of topic. ( forgot which post I gathered it from though). I just take notes from each post you make.
3). Commenting: I don't have a blog. When I click on commentators, it is taking me to their website and mostly they are blogs.
- what if I have niche/sniper sites. I believe it is not good idea to show those sites.
Your thoughts.
Sorry about long questions.
LOL one correction to question 1.
In the end it should read, NOT getting banned.
Grizz,
I am waiting for your reply for my questions. Could you also cover this in some detail in your posts?
thanks.
Roger,
I've put your request on my list. It's a complex subject that will take a bit of time but I'll work on it.
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